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		<title>By: Blu</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/28/this-secret-fine-discussion-has-become-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-33461</link>
		<dc:creator>Blu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 06:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I so agree with B.TN,nascar is losing their ratings for two very
good reasons.One, people just can&#039;t afford going to the tracks
anymore.Second,why watch it on cable,years ago Fox always
carried it. I myself have been a nascar fan for 25 years. Will never
go to another track,and will not watch it on tv anymore,so sick of
the last 5 years,everything is Jimmie Johnson. I am at the point
of being bored by it all.The days of Dale Sr.and &quot;true&quot; racing with all the excitment and point systems. Sad to see the empire fall to
wayside and become NOTHING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I so agree with B.TN,nascar is losing their ratings for two very<br />
good reasons.One, people just can&#8217;t afford going to the tracks<br />
anymore.Second,why watch it on cable,years ago Fox always<br />
carried it. I myself have been a nascar fan for 25 years. Will never<br />
go to another track,and will not watch it on tv anymore,so sick of<br />
the last 5 years,everything is Jimmie Johnson. I am at the point<br />
of being bored by it all.The days of Dale Sr.and &#8220;true&#8221; racing with all the excitment and point systems. Sad to see the empire fall to<br />
wayside and become NOTHING.</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/28/this-secret-fine-discussion-has-become-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-28702</link>
		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 10:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do believe that Nascar has the right to fine these millionaires  the paultry sum of $50,000 or such but I also believe that Nascar is barking up the wrong tree. 
Its all about perception.  When Nascar let certain cars wait 45 minutes for the shocks to go down after they came in 1st and 2nd two weeks in a row then tells them don&#039;t do it again w/o penalty fans were lost.  When a car is within specs but is told not to ever bring that car to the track again fans are lost.  Mysterious debris cautions, fans were lost.  Going from an exciting season opener at Daytona with new fans on board then heading to Fontana the next week believe me fans were lost.  When certain teams are fined and others aren&#039;t w/o explanation fans are lost. When Chicagoland wants you to pay $140.00 for Cup pole day along with the NW race fans are lost.  When hotels that normally charge under $100.00 per night now are charging double or triple with a 2 or 3 night minimum fans are lost.  Not having a set time or channel to go to on tv fans are lost. Seeing the same team win over and over again fans were lost.  

I understand why fans were lost last year but this year has been some of the most exciting racing Nascar has ever seen.  Nascar, in my opinion made many mistakes in the past few years that has lost the fans.  But from the drivers to the media (since most of them drink the Nascar koolaid) the constant bashing must stop.  If you don&#039;t like Nascar get out.  I didn&#039;t travel to Indy this year due to the economy and many folks are doing the same.  But Nascar has to get its own house in order too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do believe that Nascar has the right to fine these millionaires  the paultry sum of $50,000 or such but I also believe that Nascar is barking up the wrong tree.<br />
Its all about perception.  When Nascar let certain cars wait 45 minutes for the shocks to go down after they came in 1st and 2nd two weeks in a row then tells them don&#8217;t do it again w/o penalty fans were lost.  When a car is within specs but is told not to ever bring that car to the track again fans are lost.  Mysterious debris cautions, fans were lost.  Going from an exciting season opener at Daytona with new fans on board then heading to Fontana the next week believe me fans were lost.  When certain teams are fined and others aren&#8217;t w/o explanation fans are lost. When Chicagoland wants you to pay $140.00 for Cup pole day along with the NW race fans are lost.  When hotels that normally charge under $100.00 per night now are charging double or triple with a 2 or 3 night minimum fans are lost.  Not having a set time or channel to go to on tv fans are lost. Seeing the same team win over and over again fans were lost.  </p>
<p>I understand why fans were lost last year but this year has been some of the most exciting racing Nascar has ever seen.  Nascar, in my opinion made many mistakes in the past few years that has lost the fans.  But from the drivers to the media (since most of them drink the Nascar koolaid) the constant bashing must stop.  If you don&#8217;t like Nascar get out.  I didn&#8217;t travel to Indy this year due to the economy and many folks are doing the same.  But Nascar has to get its own house in order too.</p>
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		<title>By: GJMystery</title>
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		<dc:creator>GJMystery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 20:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been a fan of Racing since the 60&#039;s, NASCAR when I had to kick my dad off the TV when there were just a few televised races a year... 

I have not watched a Race on TV for a while now... Live a few miles from the Charlotte Motor Speedway and Have gone to one of the 2 races this year and was disappointed again. NASCAR Needs the cautions to bunch them back up and race a little. 

I still love racing.. but follow people who actually race, F1, NHRA, NMRA, and the locals where the still cuss and swear and throw a fit without fear of fines.  What ever happened to &quot;Thats Racin&quot;. 

All of the cars being the same is the failure, Has NASCAR not learned anything from the past. IROC went down the tubes because no one want to see a bunch of Camaros running around a track. What is the difference now.  Learn how to tweak a little more speed out of the engine. Next week the rules change and you get fined, Learn how to tweak the suspension,,,, OOOPS here goes another fine.

LET THEM RACE BOTH ON THE TRACK AND IN THE GARAGE!!! 

THATS RACIN and I miss it.   And then they will have little to Gripe about.

NASCAR May Die but Racing ......Never!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been a fan of Racing since the 60&#8242;s, NASCAR when I had to kick my dad off the TV when there were just a few televised races a year&#8230; </p>
<p>I have not watched a Race on TV for a while now&#8230; Live a few miles from the Charlotte Motor Speedway and Have gone to one of the 2 races this year and was disappointed again. NASCAR Needs the cautions to bunch them back up and race a little. </p>
<p>I still love racing.. but follow people who actually race, F1, NHRA, NMRA, and the locals where the still cuss and swear and throw a fit without fear of fines.  What ever happened to &#8220;Thats Racin&#8221;. </p>
<p>All of the cars being the same is the failure, Has NASCAR not learned anything from the past. IROC went down the tubes because no one want to see a bunch of Camaros running around a track. What is the difference now.  Learn how to tweak a little more speed out of the engine. Next week the rules change and you get fined, Learn how to tweak the suspension,,,, OOOPS here goes another fine.</p>
<p>LET THEM RACE BOTH ON THE TRACK AND IN THE GARAGE!!! </p>
<p>THATS RACIN and I miss it.   And then they will have little to Gripe about.</p>
<p>NASCAR May Die but Racing &#8230;&#8230;Never!</p>
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		<title>By: MS</title>
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		<dc:creator>MS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newman is one of the most intelligent, best educated guys out there. Fine him?? The dolts should be PAYING HIM consulting fees!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newman is one of the most intelligent, best educated guys out there. Fine him?? The dolts should be PAYING HIM consulting fees!!</p>
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		<title>By: Neon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, by now I hope all you TNI bloggers know that the success of TNI depends on the anonymity of both Journo and TC, right? That secret is what “makes” this site the “go to” for not only fans, but evidently NASCAR itself. Word has it that NASCAR officials monitored this particular post with a very keen interest to learn how to best control the perception between drivers, sponsors, NASCAR itself and fans alike.

So, instead of secretly levying fines on drivers for derogatory remarks “against” the sanctioning body, NASCAR will do a 180. Have you heard about this? You know how drivers sponsored by Coke, Vitamin Water, Gatorade, or NOS get credit each time they are witnessed taking a “swig” on camera? Well the new mandate just out today is NASCAR will issue standard drink bottles inscribed w/ the official “I love NASCAR” logos and…you guessed it. For every sip on camera, NASCAR will issue bonuses (kind of anti-secret-fines) for do-gooder drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, by now I hope all you TNI bloggers know that the success of TNI depends on the anonymity of both Journo and TC, right? That secret is what “makes” this site the “go to” for not only fans, but evidently NASCAR itself. Word has it that NASCAR officials monitored this particular post with a very keen interest to learn how to best control the perception between drivers, sponsors, NASCAR itself and fans alike.</p>
<p>So, instead of secretly levying fines on drivers for derogatory remarks “against” the sanctioning body, NASCAR will do a 180. Have you heard about this? You know how drivers sponsored by Coke, Vitamin Water, Gatorade, or NOS get credit each time they are witnessed taking a “swig” on camera? Well the new mandate just out today is NASCAR will issue standard drink bottles inscribed w/ the official “I love NASCAR” logos and…you guessed it. For every sip on camera, NASCAR will issue bonuses (kind of anti-secret-fines) for do-gooder drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: windowlicker</title>
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		<dc:creator>windowlicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment #34: You beat me to it T.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment #34: You beat me to it T.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Carrie</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/28/this-secret-fine-discussion-has-become-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-28667</link>
		<dc:creator>Carrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something the protestors seem to not be considering in this equation is this: what would happen in real life? What would happen in Denny Hamlin worked for Joe Gibbs Construction and started started raving to the media about injustices and bad decisions his company made? Forget being fined. He wouldn&#039;t have a job. 

Unless you own the business you work for, I bet there is a clause in your employment paperwork that says you cannot disparage the company in the media or you&#039;ll face firing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something the protestors seem to not be considering in this equation is this: what would happen in real life? What would happen in Denny Hamlin worked for Joe Gibbs Construction and started started raving to the media about injustices and bad decisions his company made? Forget being fined. He wouldn&#8217;t have a job. </p>
<p>Unless you own the business you work for, I bet there is a clause in your employment paperwork that says you cannot disparage the company in the media or you&#8217;ll face firing.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if T.C was fined 1 cent  for writing this article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if T.C was fined 1 cent  for writing this article.</p>
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		<title>By: C.F.</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/28/this-secret-fine-discussion-has-become-ridiculous/comment-page-1/#comment-28664</link>
		<dc:creator>C.F.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If that&#039;s the case why does NASCAR put Kyle on the front page of their website bashing NASCAR&#039;s ruling on the Brad/Carl issue? 

http://www.nascar.com/video/cup/2010/tnt/kyles_corner/07/27/cup_poc2_kyle.nascar/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that&#8217;s the case why does NASCAR put Kyle on the front page of their website bashing NASCAR&#8217;s ruling on the Brad/Carl issue? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nascar.com/video/cup/2010/tnt/kyles_corner/07/27/cup_poc2_kyle.nascar/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nascar.com/video/cup/2010/tnt/kyles_corner/07/27/cup_poc2_kyle.nascar/index.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: B.TN</title>
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		<dc:creator>B.TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NASCAR IS WRONG ON THIS........................
DO THEY THINK THIS IS GETTING IN THEIR OWN POCKETS... ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY...............................................GREED WILL TAKE THEM DOWN......AND CHOKE NASCAR OUT IF NASCAR KEEPS BUTTING INTO THE DRIVERS.............. THE DRIVERS ARE ONLY TELLING THE TRUTH......I USED TO GO TO THE RACES AND WATCH EVERY SUNDAY, BUT NASCAR IS REALLY GOING TO FAR THIS YEAR......... I DON&#039;T GO TO ANYMORE RACES AND I ONLY WATCH THE LAST 20 LAPS OF THE RACES WHEN I DO WATCH... NASCAR HAS GOTTEN  TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBORING............ FINING THESE DRIVERS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH...IS NOT RIGHT - - - WHAT ELSE IS NASCAR HIDING???????????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASCAR IS WRONG ON THIS&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
DO THEY THINK THIS IS GETTING IN THEIR OWN POCKETS&#8230; ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..GREED WILL TAKE THEM DOWN&#8230;&#8230;AND CHOKE NASCAR OUT IF NASCAR KEEPS BUTTING INTO THE DRIVERS&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. THE DRIVERS ARE ONLY TELLING THE TRUTH&#8230;&#8230;I USED TO GO TO THE RACES AND WATCH EVERY SUNDAY, BUT NASCAR IS REALLY GOING TO FAR THIS YEAR&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; I DON&#8217;T GO TO ANYMORE RACES AND I ONLY WATCH THE LAST 20 LAPS OF THE RACES WHEN I DO WATCH&#8230; NASCAR HAS GOTTEN  TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOBORING&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; FINING THESE DRIVERS FOR TELLING THE TRUTH&#8230;IS NOT RIGHT &#8211; - &#8211; WHAT ELSE IS NASCAR HIDING???????????????</p>
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