Comments on: McMurray Making Roush, Truex Look Bad http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/ A blog by insiders for outsiders Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:03:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Charles http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-28674 Charles Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:35:06 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=3240#comment-28674 Kevin Jack Roush had he been fielding Nascars brand of Choice Chevy with all the favoritism toward GM would have had probably a lot more point titles! Roush who I admire gets bad rap because HE HAS SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT! As far a point titles he has more than any Ford Team 2 since 1972! I would love to see Chad and Jimmy Johnson switch brands of cars and lets see how good they are!!! before the second point title his wings would have been clipped Kevin

Jack Roush had he been fielding Nascars brand of Choice Chevy with all the favoritism toward GM would have had probably a lot more point titles!

Roush who I admire gets bad rap because HE HAS SOMETHING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT!

As far a point titles he has more than any Ford Team 2 since 1972!

I would love to see Chad and Jimmy Johnson switch brands of cars and lets see how good they are!!! before the second point title his wings would have been clipped

]]> By: Kevin http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-28652 Kevin Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:24:51 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=3240#comment-28652 Roush is an engineering power house. They do a lot of OEM design & engineering. With all this brain power, money & great drivers available, Roush should have more than 2 Championships to his name. How Mark Martin never won a championship is a crime. Had he been a Childress or Hendrick driver, he would have a few championships to his name. I think Jack Roush gets in his own way. It all starts at the top. Roush is an engineering power house. They do a lot of OEM design & engineering. With all this brain power, money & great drivers available, Roush should have more than 2 Championships to his name. How Mark Martin never won a championship is a crime. Had he been a Childress or Hendrick driver, he would have a few championships to his name. I think Jack Roush gets in his own way. It all starts at the top.

]]> By: Charles http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-28602 Charles Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:16:43 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=3240#comment-28602 Kevin in Martinsville I dont drink the Coolaide that Chevy has better teams! Lets see in 1998 after Chevy had dominated the point titles in the ninties they let GM have a new SB2 engine! Then in 2007 after winning the most point titles again and leading apox 70% of the laps, wining 90% of the races at Talledaga, and 65% of Daytona 500s not counting Clash, Busch races etc and 70% of laps leds what does Nascar do, let them have a New RO7! Just let another brand dominate like this and you will see consistent rule changes! Remember the 2000 Daytona? it was the last time another brand dominated Speedweeks and Nascar made sure it did not happen again! Gannisi tried Dodge and and seen the odds were stacked and switch to Chevy and all of a sudden he is a winner! Nascar attitude is if Chevy is not winning racing is not right, dont other brands have the rights to dominate in Nascar? In Nascar you are only allowed to dominate with a 'bowtie on the hood" Kevin in Martinsville

I dont drink the Coolaide that Chevy has better teams!

Lets see in 1998 after Chevy had dominated the point titles in the ninties they let GM have a new SB2 engine!

Then in 2007 after winning the most point titles again and leading apox 70% of the laps, wining 90% of the races at Talledaga, and 65% of Daytona 500s not counting Clash, Busch races etc and 70% of laps leds what does Nascar do, let them have a New RO7!

Just let another brand dominate like this and you will see consistent rule changes!

Remember the 2000 Daytona? it was the last time another brand dominated Speedweeks and Nascar made sure it did not happen again!

Gannisi tried Dodge and and seen the odds were stacked and switch to Chevy and all of a sudden he is a winner!

Nascar attitude is if Chevy is not winning racing is not right, dont other brands have the rights to dominate in Nascar?

In Nascar you are only allowed to dominate with a ‘bowtie on the hood”

]]> By: T.C. http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-28597 T.C. Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:35:34 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=3240#comment-28597 Ah! Logic! Thank you Kevin in Martinsville! Ah! Logic! Thank you Kevin in Martinsville!

]]> By: Kevin in Martinsville http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-28596 Kevin in Martinsville Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:32:34 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=3240#comment-28596 Steve_S: While it does take more than just skill to win at a plate track, McMurray won two in a row and almost made it three at Talladega. In addition to that, I think his win at Indy and his 3 poles have legitimized him even more. And he isn't 20-something in points...he's 16th. You say "think if he was in an HMS car"...but he may be doing worse. Certain people just fit better with certain organizations. We saw that in part with his failed move to Roush. I don't remember which year this was, maybe around 2006, but there was one year when he was still in Ganassi's #42 when he just barely missed the chase but then pulled off a string of top-10s in the last 10 races and scored enough points to have been in contention for the title had he made the chase. Charles: As for Chevy's dominance, let's be realistic. A good portion of it is simply due to its drivers and teams. Not counting S&P efforts, Chevy has 14 regular teams including many champion drivers. Few would argue that Stewart, Gordon, and Johnson are among the best drivers in the business. Ford has 12, but only 8 if you leave out the less than stellar efforts of Front Row Motorsports and the #26 team. Plus Roush admitted to getting behind with the new car. It's obvious that there's no Chevy favortism. Let's stay focused on reality. Steve_S: While it does take more than just skill to win at a plate track, McMurray won two in a row and almost made it three at Talladega. In addition to that, I think his win at Indy and his 3 poles have legitimized him even more. And he isn’t 20-something in points…he’s 16th.

You say “think if he was in an HMS car”…but he may be doing worse. Certain people just fit better with certain organizations. We saw that in part with his failed move to Roush.

I don’t remember which year this was, maybe around 2006, but there was one year when he was still in Ganassi’s #42 when he just barely missed the chase but then pulled off a string of top-10s in the last 10 races and scored enough points to have been in contention for the title had he made the chase.

Charles: As for Chevy’s dominance, let’s be realistic. A good portion of it is simply due to its drivers and teams. Not counting S&P efforts, Chevy has 14 regular teams including many champion drivers. Few would argue that Stewart, Gordon, and Johnson are among the best drivers in the business. Ford has 12, but only 8 if you leave out the less than stellar efforts of Front Row Motorsports and the #26 team. Plus Roush admitted to getting behind with the new car. It’s obvious that there’s no Chevy favortism. Let’s stay focused on reality.

]]> By: Irritated http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-28594 Irritated Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:22:23 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=3240#comment-28594 OK - I totally disagree with the Title of this post! - I think Martin (Truex) is doing great and having a great year, since he is no longer bieng held back at the former DEI! (May Dale rest in peace). - Jamie is getting alot of attention because he is finally performing after all of these years. In my opinion, people for whatever reason are down on any of the drivers at MWR, mailnly because alot of people dont care for MW. - And thats thier issue. Look at Martins previous years stats and now this years - MUCH BETTER - Thank you MWR! Martin is a really great guy, awsome to his fans, and deserves to finally be with a team that cares about thier drivers and staff! And as for Jamie, he is not under the "House of Roush" thumb, but he is no Jimmie Johnson. He still needs to work on his attitude....but thats MY personal opinion from my own personal experiences around the boy. OK – I totally disagree with the Title of this post! – I think Martin (Truex) is doing great and having a great year, since he is no longer bieng held back at the former DEI! (May Dale rest in peace). -
Jamie is getting alot of attention because he is finally performing after all of these years.
In my opinion, people for whatever reason are down on any of the drivers at MWR, mailnly because alot of people dont care for MW. – And thats thier issue.
Look at Martins previous years stats and now this years – MUCH BETTER – Thank you MWR!
Martin is a really great guy, awsome to his fans, and deserves to finally be with a team that cares about thier drivers and staff!
And as for Jamie, he is not under the “House of Roush” thumb, but he is no Jimmie Johnson. He still needs to work on his attitude….but thats MY personal opinion from my own personal experiences around the boy.

]]> By: Steve_S http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-28589 Steve_S Wed, 28 Jul 2010 06:43:49 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=3240#comment-28589 J_mac was never much of a factor when he was with Chip the 1st time. He had what 5 years with Jack and only won a couple of races and was never in the hunt for a cup. He never even shined when he was in one of the Roush busch/nat_wide rides. He is back with Chip and in a brand that had 9 of the top 10 qualifers and has won the manufacturers championship for what 10 years now and always seems to have an edge. He should be winning and think if he was in a HMS car, no offense Jr. J_mac is having a good year with 2 wins and what 20 something in points so... great I guess if you need to write about something. Lets see what he does next year. Oh, and remember, the other two most recent races he won were plate races which is a luck thing. Remember, even Cope and Mikey_W won at Daytona! J_mac was never much of a factor when he was with Chip the 1st time. He had what 5 years with Jack and only won a couple of races and was never in the hunt for a cup. He never even shined when he was in one of the Roush busch/nat_wide rides. He is back with Chip and in a brand that had 9 of the top 10 qualifers and has won the manufacturers championship for what 10 years now and always seems to have an edge. He should be winning and think if he was in a HMS car, no offense Jr.

J_mac is having a good year with 2 wins and what 20 something in points so… great I guess if you need to write about something. Lets see what he does next year. Oh, and remember, the other two most recent races he won were plate races which is a luck thing. Remember, even Cope and Mikey_W won at Daytona!

]]> By: Jaybee http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-28586 Jaybee Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:46:53 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=3240#comment-28586 Whatever... Jamie McMurray is a hack. I hope he never wins another race. Ever. If MTjr had been given the same equipment last year that has been given to JMcM this year, he'd have been in victory lane. More than once. There's a reason why the man is a 2-time Busch Series champion...and Jamie won't even get close to making the Chase. Showing up Roush, though - I'll always cheer that on! Whatever…

Jamie McMurray is a hack. I hope he never wins another race. Ever.
If MTjr had been given the same equipment last year that has been given to JMcM this year, he’d have been in victory lane. More than once. There’s a reason why the man is a 2-time Busch Series champion…and Jamie won’t even get close to making the Chase.

Showing up Roush, though – I’ll always cheer that on!

]]> By: Garry http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-28578 Garry Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:55:01 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=3240#comment-28578 That James <i>is</i> a nice young man, BUT.... <b>CHIP GANASSI IS THE MAN!!!!</b> <i>more more more "Owner Stories"</i>, please : ) That James is a nice young man,
BUT….
CHIP GANASSI IS THE MAN!!!!

more more more “Owner Stories”, please : )

]]> By: Scotto http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2010/07/27/mcmurray-making-roush-truex-look-bad/comment-page-1/#comment-28577 Scotto Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:30:40 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=3240#comment-28577 I never had an respect for Jack Roush at all. I don't know why Jamie Mac left Ganassi in the first place but I'm glad he was given another chance ..At least he (ganassi) is not a cry baby like Roush is. But you have to go where the money is and then you get used as a R&D driver then cut loose.. They should really get some good drivers in that organization because all they have is a guy who tries to kill other drivers, a guy who lost his winning ways and fires a good crew chief and Ragen and Bifle are quiet and aren't causing problems. Hat's off to Jamie Mac! I never had an respect for Jack Roush at all. I don’t know why Jamie Mac left Ganassi in the first place but I’m glad he was given another chance ..At least he (ganassi) is not a cry baby like Roush is. But you have to go where the money is and then you get used as a R&D driver then cut loose.. They should really get some good drivers in that organization because all they have is a guy who tries to kill other drivers, a guy who lost his winning ways and fires a good crew chief and Ragen and Bifle are quiet and aren’t causing problems. Hat’s off to Jamie Mac!

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