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NASCAR Is Listening; and a Points Clarification

I know this is getting beat to death around the NASCAR world, but I think it’s a worthy subject. I’m talking about NASCAR, at least preliminarily, relenting on changes to the COT.

As of right now nothing has been done and nothing has been announced and all we’ve got from NASCAR is  “maybe talk,” but truly it’s a great start. Throughout the season we saw a sanctioning body more engaged with drivers and team owners, holding town hall style meetings and asking their opinions on a wide number of subjects.

In addition the sanctioning body is utilizing the Fan Council and tapping into the sentiments of the most important people involved in the sport. While they’re only occasional surveys, I promise NASCAR is listening. You screamed about Digger and they brought it to David Hill; he unfortunately didn’t listen.

Back to the COT though, this is something NASCAR has consistently refused to make changes to in the years since its introduction; and honestly that probably wasn’t a bad thing. Can you imagine being a crew chief or driver and trying to figure out a car they were constantly making changes to? It would have been a disaster.

Now they’re talking to drivers and owners and looking at making a change to the car. A wing or a spoiler? It makes no difference to me. I’m not offended by the aesthetics of the car (and certainly don’t have to drive one), but I know I’m in the minority on that. What effect will it have? I honestly have no idea. The reaction to it is clearly mixed throughout the garage. We’ll see how it works on track.

The point is NASCAR is listening; and they’re actually considering changes based on what people are saying. This really is huge. In addition to the possible changes to the COT, they’re expected to make some rule changes. The media tour is next week; NASCAR’s turn is Thursday, so expect some announcements from them.

I know this is hard to believe sometimes, but the folks at NASCAR really do want you to be happy. Happy fans, make for good bottom lines. And as we say here so often, this is a business.

A Clarification on the #26 Points Situation

We had a question in Ask the Insiders this week about the points situation of the #26. Here was my response:

I honestly haven’t heard anything about this deal, but it’s my understanding from the way NASCAR has done things in the past that they won’t be allowed to sell owner points. The problem arises because the past team owner would be listed as the owner. As Jack Roush already has four teams he can’t be listed as an owner on another car (this would be the same issue for RPM). This is very similar to the DEI-Ginn points situation (they would have exceeded the car limit). NASCAR allowed DEI to sell the points to RCR and Front Row last year because they didn’t exceed the car limit. You’ll notice Teresa Earnhardt is listed as the owner on the #34 and Bobby Ginn as owner of the #33. If NASCAR operates like they did in the past I would expect the points to disappear.

Well NASCAR didn’t operate like they did in the past and allowed Roush to essentially sell the points through a “comprehensive services agreement” to a new team owner. NASCAR clarified today (story here and here), saying this was a ONE TIME deal that they were allowing because they were forcing Roush’s downsizing. Fair enough.

In these situations in the past NASCAR has required the team owner transferring the points to somehow be involved in the team. That’s why you see Bobby Ginn listed as a team owner at RCR and why Smith Ganassi Racing has Ganassi in its name (and why Ganassi is listed as the team owner of the #42). Obviously neither of these men has anything to do with the teams that took their points, but it placates NASCAR so that’s what’s done. For all intents and purposes, while they don’t technically allow it, the points are sold.

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5 Comments on “NASCAR Is Listening; and a Points Clarification”

  1. #1 Marc
    on Jan 15th, 2010 at 1:36 am

    Agreed, fair enough, NASCAR forced the issue with the 4 car per team edict and I fail to see a problem with this point swap.

    That said, if and when the situation comes up again they better revert back to the procedure as it was previously.

    On the spoiler, makes no difference with me either, however I will agree many drivers have said the wing caused problems with vision given that maybe a change if it occurs is a good thing.

    Something related to spoilers: NASCAR has a long history dealing with spoilers and the many problems that arose with there use.

    All thru the 70,s, 80’s and 90’s spoilers were adjusted/changed to compensate for different aerodynamics cause by different body shapes.

    In 1983 the cars were so unstable spoilers were changed three times from opening practice to the 500. As recently as 2002 the Daytona 500 spoilers were changed three times within a week.

    All that history said… now picture the NNS COT. The field consists of the “old” Toyotas and Impalas and the new Challengers and Mustangs.

    There must be a vast difference between the new and old.

    I’m far from an aerodynamics professor, but I’m standing on a thin limb and predict the spoilers wars of the past will revisit the NNS series once the car is fully introduced in 2011.

    One brand or another will all be crying for spoiler adjustments, claiming they aren’t competitive, just as they did in the past.

  2. #2 Neon
    on Jan 15th, 2010 at 10:40 am

    Regarding the points talk…with news that the RCR #07 won’t be back anytime soon, will those points go by the wayside? also will this allow the 36th place spot a guarantee through the first 5 races?

  3. #3 T.C.
    on Jan 15th, 2010 at 11:26 am

    Neon: Unless somebody makes RCR a deal for them, they will go away. If they do, the next team in the owner standings will be guaranteed in I believe.

  4. #4 Richard in N.C.
    on Jan 15th, 2010 at 6:17 pm

    I sure wish someone who knows what they are talking about (that eliminates almost all reporters) would explain why NASCAR would be more in favor of aluminum spoilers than lexan – and might more adjustability for the wing have made the COT handle better.

  5. #5 Neon
    on Jan 16th, 2010 at 1:39 pm

    TC-Thanks for the clarification. That being the case, seems like RCR would bring an unsponsored #07 car to the 1st 5 races just to start-n-park and collect starting money. That may be chump change for Richard, but seems like very easy money.

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