Comments on: Does Anybody Else Miss The Old Bud Shootout? http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/ A blog by insiders for outsiders Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:03:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Conor T. http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-22073 Conor T. Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:18:28 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2459#comment-22073 Yep, give Busch Clash or Bud Shoot Out! Ditch this, yet another crummy change, they are shoving down our throats! I agree with Neon, if your a Sprint Cup champ, your a Sprint Cup champ, (or Nextel), but goodness sake, we have many more Winston Cup champs, and THAT is what they are Winston Cup champs. Have boys in Daytona begun to wonder why so many long time fans are getting turned off? Yep, give Busch Clash or Bud Shoot Out! Ditch this, yet another crummy change, they are shoving down our throats! I agree with Neon, if your a Sprint Cup champ, your a Sprint Cup champ, (or Nextel), but goodness sake, we have many more Winston Cup champs, and THAT is what they are Winston Cup champs. Have boys in Daytona begun to wonder why so many long time fans are getting turned off?

]]> By: Connie http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-21728 Connie Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:56:24 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2459#comment-21728 For those of you that feel they have to make these changes to get Jr in. I have taken time to look up the history of eligibility for the Bud shootout unlike many others who spout off claiming the changes have been made to get Jr into the race. 2002-2008 the rules were: Pole Position winners from previous season clinched automatic berths. ALL FORMER WINNERS OF THE EVENT not already qualified received automatic berths. In 2009 they did add the top six teams from each manufacturer and the FORMER WINNERS OF THE EVENT eligibility WAS STILL in tact. JR HAS WON THE BUD SHOOTOUT TWO TIMES 2003 and 2008. HIS ELIGIBILITY HAS NOT CHANGED. It looks to me that this rule was made to get Kyle in the race and to shove the top 12 from last year down our throats again. For those of you that feel they have to make these changes to get Jr in. I have taken time to look up the history of eligibility for the Bud shootout unlike many others who spout off claiming the changes have been made to get Jr into the race. 2002-2008 the rules were: Pole Position winners from previous season clinched automatic berths. ALL FORMER WINNERS OF THE EVENT not already qualified received automatic berths.

In 2009 they did add the top six teams from each manufacturer and the FORMER WINNERS OF THE EVENT eligibility WAS STILL in tact.

JR HAS WON THE BUD SHOOTOUT TWO TIMES 2003 and 2008. HIS ELIGIBILITY HAS NOT CHANGED.

It looks to me that this rule was made to get Kyle in the race and to shove the top 12 from last year down our throats again.

]]> By: knobcreekfan http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-21621 knobcreekfan Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:03:20 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2459#comment-21621 Neon - I am with you...they were NOT Sprint Cup Champions!!! The King won 3 Grand National titles. Not even Winston Cup. Grand National! Now let's limit the former winners in the shootout & all-star to the last 3-4-5 years or something reasonable. Otherwise you dilute what these races are supposed to be. All due respect to Shrader, Labonte, etc... but come on. They were great drivers, but their time is up. I do not know if they are still this way (don't care enough to look), but the driver and car # that won a race were eligible. Ugh. Let's just include cousins, neighbors and uncles of winners. And yes, let's put some meaningful prizes towards heat races...20 laps max. Then invert the field and do it again. I don't want to see and parades. Neon – I am with you…they were NOT Sprint Cup Champions!!! The King won 3 Grand National titles. Not even Winston Cup. Grand National!

Now let’s limit the former winners in the shootout & all-star to the last 3-4-5 years or something reasonable. Otherwise you dilute what these races are supposed to be. All due respect to Shrader, Labonte, etc… but come on. They were great drivers, but their time is up.

I do not know if they are still this way (don’t care enough to look), but the driver and car # that won a race were eligible. Ugh. Let’s just include cousins, neighbors and uncles of winners.

And yes, let’s put some meaningful prizes towards heat races…20 laps max. Then invert the field and do it again. I don’t want to see and parades.

]]> By: Robby http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-21616 Robby Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:29:15 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2459#comment-21616 Hey Richard and Connie, wasn't the 2009 shootout based on the top five drivers of each manufacturer? Was this done to coddle the Toyota teams before Joe Gibbs gave them the RO7 (as confessed to by Waltrip)? Leaving pole and race winners like Tony Stewart and Ryan Newman watching it on TV. What part of being a Daytona winner makes him one of the top five drivers that was in the rules for driver placement last year? Jr. will (somehow) do better this year. However I'm sure that it will still be the same problems he blames on the car, owner, jackman, spotter, pit signs all being the same, crew chief, rear tire carrier, stripes on pit road, etc... Oh, how I miss the days of the red #9, a Piedmont Oldsmobile and the Underbird. Hey Richard and Connie, wasn’t the 2009 shootout based on the top five drivers of each manufacturer? Was this done to coddle the Toyota teams before Joe Gibbs gave them the RO7 (as confessed to by Waltrip)? Leaving pole and race winners like Tony Stewart and Ryan Newman watching it on TV. What part of being a Daytona winner makes him one of the top five drivers that was in the rules for driver placement last year?
Jr. will (somehow) do better this year. However I’m sure that it will still be the same problems he blames on the car, owner, jackman, spotter, pit signs all being the same, crew chief, rear tire carrier, stripes on pit road, etc…
Oh, how I miss the days of the red #9, a Piedmont Oldsmobile and the Underbird.

]]> By: Newracefan http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-21610 Newracefan Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:40:40 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2459#comment-21610 I read the new rules and all I could think of was "WHAT?" I understand it can't be pole winners don't like it but I understand. I even got the top of each manufacturer. This just makes my head spin. I read the new rules and all I could think of was “WHAT?” I understand it can’t be pole winners don’t like it but I understand. I even got the top of each manufacturer. This just makes my head spin.

]]> By: Connie http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-21570 Connie Tue, 29 Dec 2009 18:41:03 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2459#comment-21570 Some of you are really not with it. Do some of you know what the qualifications were before the change? This change was NOT made to get Jr in the race. Jr has won the Bud shootout so he already was in before the change. Jr bashers just can't think of anything but how to throw jabs at Jr. In doing this it shows just how stupid some people are. Open mouth, insert foot. Read before you write so you can at least look smart. LOL Some of you are really not with it. Do some of you know what the qualifications were before the change? This change was NOT made to get Jr in the race. Jr has won the Bud shootout so he already was in before the change. Jr bashers just can’t think of anything but how to throw jabs at Jr. In doing this it shows just how stupid some people are. Open mouth, insert foot. Read before you write so you can at least look smart. LOL

]]> By: Jerry http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-21567 Jerry Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:17:14 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2459#comment-21567 Like a few others that replied, I miss the Busch Clash even more that this shootout nonsense. The Bud Shootout or the "Bud"just join in" is no longer anything special. It might as well just be another Happy Hour practice session with a payout. Nothing like it used to be where you had to earn a spot. Like a few others that replied, I miss the Busch Clash even more that this shootout nonsense.

The Bud Shootout or the “Bud”just join in” is no longer anything special. It might as well just be another Happy Hour practice session with a payout. Nothing like it used to be where you had to earn a spot.

]]> By: T.C. http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-21560 T.C. Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:39:43 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2459#comment-21560 Schrader Fan: I realize that. What I'm saying is, is that I'm okay with that as long as the race is a format that makes sense (like we used to have). But when it's just another All Star race, I'm not cool with it. Schrader Fan: I realize that. What I’m saying is, is that I’m okay with that as long as the race is a format that makes sense (like we used to have). But when it’s just another All Star race, I’m not cool with it.

]]> By: Mike http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-21558 Mike Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:26:06 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2459#comment-21558 Brian France is simply an idiot. Brian France is simply an idiot.

]]> By: Schrader Fan http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/12/27/does-anybody-else-miss-the-old-bud-shootout/comment-page-1/#comment-21556 Schrader Fan Tue, 29 Dec 2009 14:16:57 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2459#comment-21556 TC - Then Schrader would be in. TC – Then Schrader would be in.

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