Comments on: Teams Need To Let Young Pit Crew Guys Make Mistakes http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/10/14/teams-need-to-let-young-pit-crew-guys-make-mistakes/ A blog by insiders for outsiders Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:03:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Tony http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/10/14/teams-need-to-let-young-pit-crew-guys-make-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16203 Tony Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:11:27 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2211#comment-16203 While I understand your point, a GOOD crew chief would not put a newbee in that situation. A further point is that the top teams rarely pluck from the lower divisions. They want guys that know the drill. They don't takes guys that make but the odd mistake, At this level there is no room for a screw up. Once, ok, twice, your on the list, three times, look for the door to be hitting you in the back. Who told you it would be easy? All these guys know what its about going in, don't cry "foul" if you don't make it because you made a mistake, go away and learn. While I understand your point, a GOOD crew chief would not put a newbee in that situation. A further point is that the top teams rarely pluck from the lower divisions. They want guys that know the drill. They don’t takes guys that make but the odd mistake, At this level there is no room for a screw up. Once, ok, twice, your on the list, three times, look for the door to be hitting you in the back.
Who told you it would be easy? All these guys know what its about going in, don’t cry “foul” if you don’t make it because you made a mistake, go away and learn.

]]> By: Neon http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/10/14/teams-need-to-let-young-pit-crew-guys-make-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16198 Neon Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:44:19 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2211#comment-16198 T.C. I am a firm believer that as you say, “And having a crappy attitude and lame excuses won’t get guys anywhere.” That is the key to team chemistry. Even great players in the NFL (i.e. TO) have to realize that w/o their team mates supporting each other and clicking on all cylinders they are nothing. Probably an ATIW question here, but is there a sort of unwritten fraternity amongst crew members? Also, does an owner or mgt of a Cup team (not necessarily discourage crew members from being too close to other teams, but…) make it known what is to be, and not to be, discussed on the clock and off? BTW: Enjoyed the insider perspective of the post! T.C. I am a firm believer that as you say, “And having a crappy attitude and lame excuses won’t get guys anywhere.” That is the key to team chemistry. Even great players in the NFL (i.e. TO) have to realize that w/o their team mates supporting each other and clicking on all cylinders they are nothing.

Probably an ATIW question here, but is there a sort of unwritten fraternity amongst crew members? Also, does an owner or mgt of a Cup team (not necessarily discourage crew members from being too close to other teams, but…) make it known what is to be, and not to be, discussed on the clock and off?

BTW: Enjoyed the insider perspective of the post!

]]> By: West Coast Kenny http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/10/14/teams-need-to-let-young-pit-crew-guys-make-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16194 West Coast Kenny Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:10:14 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2211#comment-16194 T.C., Where would you have a new guy start? Now that you mention it here, I wonder why crew guys are starting at the Craftsman or Nationwide level. WCK T.C.,

Where would you have a new guy start? Now that you mention it here, I wonder why crew guys are starting at the Craftsman or Nationwide level.

WCK

]]> By: Zieke http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/10/14/teams-need-to-let-young-pit-crew-guys-make-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16193 Zieke Thu, 15 Oct 2009 13:50:39 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2211#comment-16193 Good post on the crew guys. Don't forget the drivers. I see veterans making mistakes on pit road all the time, and they apologize and go on. what was really interesting was watching those drivers come down pit road at full speed in the past. Of course there were very few that could do it correctly. Good post on the crew guys. Don’t forget the drivers. I see veterans making mistakes on pit road all the time, and they apologize and go on. what was really interesting was watching those drivers come down pit road at full speed in the past. Of course there were very few that could do it correctly.

]]> By: ronFWNC http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/10/14/teams-need-to-let-young-pit-crew-guys-make-mistakes/comment-page-1/#comment-16168 ronFWNC Thu, 15 Oct 2009 12:29:31 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=2211#comment-16168 Very interesting post. This never would have occurred to me, but it makes a lot of sense. I guess it's a lot like a sports team. If you cut a new guy who drops a pass or lets a ground ball go under his glove, you crush his confidence and destroy a career at its outset. A pit crew is just another kind of team. Repetition and mutual co-ordination lead to success, and that comes with time and patience. And a team that cans a guy for one early error is failing in its mission. Presumably you've seen this occur somewhere recently. I know you can't be specific, but I am curious whether the team involved is a successful one, or one that is struggling. Very interesting post. This never would have occurred to me, but it makes a lot of sense. I guess it’s a lot like a sports team. If you cut a new guy who drops a pass or lets a ground ball go under his glove, you crush his confidence and destroy a career at its outset. A pit crew is just another kind of team. Repetition and mutual co-ordination lead to success, and that comes with time and patience. And a team that cans a guy for one early error is failing in its mission.

Presumably you’ve seen this occur somewhere recently. I know you can’t be specific, but I am curious whether the team involved is a successful one, or one that is struggling.

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