Comments on: With Brad K., Hendrick Comes Out Smelling Like a Rose http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/ A blog by insiders for outsiders Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:03:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Neon http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-13420 Neon Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:03:24 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1996#comment-13420 Guess the deal is done and I suspect Roger didn't even come close to making any kind of future deal w/ Hendrick over Brad. Penske is a sharp dude and hopefully has a plan to replace Stremme. Speaking of which, maybe wasn't the smartest person to put in the #12 this year. Even RP makes mistakes. Guess the deal is done and I suspect Roger didn’t even come close to making any kind of future deal w/ Hendrick over Brad. Penske is a sharp dude and hopefully has a plan to replace Stremme. Speaking of which, maybe wasn’t the smartest person to put in the #12 this year. Even RP makes mistakes.

]]> By: Journo http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-13170 Journo Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:27:17 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1996#comment-13170 Candyalmonds- EGR has two fully sponsored/mostly sponsored cars for next season and only one driver. That's the only open (or apparently open) sponsored ride in the series. Candyalmonds- EGR has two fully sponsored/mostly sponsored cars for next season and only one driver. That’s the only open (or apparently open) sponsored ride in the series.

]]> By: RaceDriven http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-13163 RaceDriven Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:35:39 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1996#comment-13163 T.C., Why isn’t EGR a good option? I understand that EGR has an open seat, namely the #1 ride with a sponsor and a car inside the chase, however in my opinion they may have the resources, but there is no veteran driver to help him along like Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, Tony Stewart or Ryan Newman, namely no help to bring him along. Second that EGR seat would be better filled with a veteran, not a rookie, plus look what happened to Regan Smith, Aric Almirola, Jeffrey Earnhardt and Sean Caisse those rookies are gone, they just don't have it with rookie drivers. <a href="http://www.racedriven.com/2009/08/five-wide-brad-keselowski-nfl-vs-nascar.html" rel="nofollow">My opinion on Brad Keselowski...</a> T.C., Why isn’t EGR a good option? I understand that EGR has an open seat, namely the #1 ride with a sponsor and a car inside the chase, however in my opinion they may have the resources, but there is no veteran driver to help him along like Mark Martin, Jeff Burton, Tony Stewart or Ryan Newman, namely no help to bring him along.

Second that EGR seat would be better filled with a veteran, not a rookie, plus look what happened to Regan Smith, Aric Almirola, Jeffrey Earnhardt and Sean Caisse those rookies are gone, they just don’t have it with rookie drivers.

My opinion on Brad Keselowski…

]]> By: Tom http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-13150 Tom Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:28:24 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1996#comment-13150 #15, Im sure Finch runs a Dodge with all his other drivers. Fellows ran a Chevy in his ringer races, but he too has ties with HMS. It was my understanding that Keselowski was given these races in the Finch car to get him more time in a Cup ride. HMS could only field a 5th car for so many races. I think Rick worked this out with Finch to give Brad more races and keep him from going to Penske last year. Other than Bliss at Richmond. all other attempt's for Finch in a Dodge ended very early #15, Im sure Finch runs a Dodge with all his other drivers. Fellows ran a Chevy in his ringer races, but he too has ties with HMS.

It was my understanding that Keselowski was given these races in the Finch car to get him more time in a Cup ride. HMS could only field a 5th car for so many races.

I think Rick worked this out with Finch to give Brad more races and keep him from going to Penske last year.

Other than Bliss at Richmond. all other attempt’s for Finch in a Dodge ended very early

]]> By: J.J. http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-13140 J.J. Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:47:51 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1996#comment-13140 Oh, get over this nonsense about Keselowski bring "loaned out" to Penske. In what dream world would Penske allow that to be true? Here's what Hendrick did wrong--yes, did wrong--he didn't think that Keselowski would leave HMS. How could Brad? HMS is the best equipment there is, right? But Brad did leave, he wanted to be in Cup, and how much longer was he supposed to wait? For Martin to really retire? No, Mark has indicated that he'll stay as long as Hendrick wants him to--long past the 2010 season. Maybe Jeff Gordon retires because of back problems. Don't count on it. I think he'd like to be # 2 on the all time wins list and that means driving a few more years. My guess he'll aim for age 42. Replace JR? Not going to happen. Johnson? Ha! Stewart-Haas third car? That's going to Harvick. Finch supported by Hendrick? Nope. Think about it, Brad's win was at Talladega was fluke--everybody gets their first win there. And besides Keselowski hasn't exactly done all that great in the #25 car--a fully supported HMS ride. So, Keselowski leaves Hendrick for Penske, what's Rick supposed to do? He put the best spin possible on it, "He'll always be close enough..." Well, yeah, of course he'll be close enough. Brad will be the guy in the Penske car challenging (with Kurt Busch) for a Chase spot next year and at least two of his guys will be missing it. Oh, while I'm on this--all three of Penske cars win next year--how's that for a prediction? Oh, get over this nonsense about Keselowski bring “loaned out” to Penske. In what dream world would Penske allow that to be true?

Here’s what Hendrick did wrong–yes, did wrong–he didn’t think that Keselowski would leave HMS. How could Brad? HMS is the best equipment there is, right? But Brad did leave, he wanted to be in Cup, and how much longer was he supposed to wait? For Martin to really retire? No, Mark has indicated that he’ll stay as long as Hendrick wants him to–long past the 2010 season. Maybe Jeff Gordon retires because of back problems. Don’t count on it. I think he’d like to be # 2 on the all time wins list and that means driving a few more years. My guess he’ll aim for age 42. Replace JR? Not going to happen. Johnson? Ha! Stewart-Haas third car? That’s going to Harvick. Finch supported by Hendrick? Nope. Think about it, Brad’s win was at Talladega was fluke–everybody gets their first win there. And besides Keselowski hasn’t exactly done all that great in the #25 car–a fully supported HMS ride.

So, Keselowski leaves Hendrick for Penske, what’s Rick supposed to do? He put the best spin possible on it, “He’ll always be close enough…”

Well, yeah, of course he’ll be close enough. Brad will be the guy in the Penske car challenging (with Kurt Busch) for a Chase spot next year and at least two of his guys will be missing it.

Oh, while I’m on this–all three of Penske cars win next year–how’s that for a prediction?

]]> By: Haywood http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-13124 Haywood Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:27:41 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1996#comment-13124 i'm pretty sure james finch buys cars from multiple teams. so it's not "hendrick cars supported by hendrick" but it's a few cars of his in their fleet, no? i could be wrong. i’m pretty sure james finch buys cars from multiple teams. so it’s not “hendrick cars supported by hendrick” but it’s a few cars of his in their fleet, no? i could be wrong.

]]> By: Overra88ted http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-13114 Overra88ted Fri, 28 Aug 2009 02:35:05 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1996#comment-13114 Here's what could be happening behind the scenes. Since Roger Penske is a pretty straight shooter, Rick Hendrick may be working on a deal where Brad K. would be "loaned out" to drive for Penske racing for say 2 years, with the stipulation that Hendrick gets Brad back after that. By then the futures of the #5, #24, and even the #88 will be clear. Don't think it can't happen? Check your history. Roger Penske has on more than one occasion farmed out his Indy car drivers for a year. Most notably Paul Tracy for 1 year in the early '90's. Why would Penske be agreeable to this? Because it gives his Nationwide drivers 2 more years to develope. With Brad K. not returning to Jr. Motorsports in 2010, there's no manufacture's conflict. Problem solved, a WIN-WIN for both Hendrick and Penske. Here’s what could be happening behind the scenes. Since Roger Penske is a pretty straight shooter, Rick Hendrick may be working on a deal where Brad K. would be “loaned out” to drive for Penske racing for say 2 years, with the stipulation that Hendrick gets Brad back after that. By then the futures of the #5, #24, and even the #88 will be clear. Don’t think it can’t happen? Check your history. Roger Penske has on more than one occasion farmed out his Indy car drivers for a year. Most notably Paul Tracy for 1 year in the early ’90′s. Why would Penske be agreeable to this? Because it gives his Nationwide drivers 2 more years to develope. With Brad K. not returning to Jr. Motorsports in 2010, there’s no manufacture’s conflict. Problem solved, a WIN-WIN for both Hendrick and Penske.

]]> By: Tom http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-13112 Tom Fri, 28 Aug 2009 01:39:49 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1996#comment-13112 I think EGR would have been a great scenario. By staying with Chevy, Brad could have stayed in the #88 NNS and kept very close ties with HMS and the sponsors that have worked with him over the last 2 years. I think EGR would have been a great scenario. By staying with Chevy, Brad could have stayed in the #88 NNS and kept very close ties with HMS and the sponsors that have worked with him over the last 2 years.

]]> By: Candyalmonds http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-13108 Candyalmonds Fri, 28 Aug 2009 00:16:52 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1996#comment-13108 First of all Penske is the only choice, Ganassi has only one car that has full time sponsorship. RCR has no room at the inn also no matter how much Harvick want to be part of Stewart Haas he is under contract till next year. It is all about sponsorship period. Streme was being sponsored by Penske it was coming directly out of his pocket, and they were not able to get sponsorship for him. Also he is close to having to race himself in..I understand the car is hard to drive but he hasn't got the best finishes he could have. Not really smart at knowing who to race out there, and making sure they get the best finish. Wasn't even able to get a top ten. It all comes down to sponsorship period if Brad was able to bring in mega bucks he would be in a HMS satelitte car right now. Penske is making a major investment to attract sponsorship to Brad. Newman left cause he wasn't able to get sponsorship in mediocre equipment. Kurt able to run well to keep Miller Sponsorship..he should with 25million plus a year on the line they will do anything or spend any amount to make them run well. Plus Roger is a great mentor, its Brad's best option since the economy is slowly turning around. Not sure how much longer HMS will be on top without Chevy support. Like Justin but he should have brought home at least a win already they have pretty good equipment in NW but no mentors. Pops in worth his weight in gold. Hey it's about business and money. Penske was the only one that can afford to take his own money and sponsor a Cup team full time.. First of all Penske is the only choice, Ganassi has only one car that has full time sponsorship. RCR has no room at the inn also no matter how much Harvick want to be part of Stewart Haas he is under contract till next year.

It is all about sponsorship period. Streme was being sponsored by Penske it was coming directly out of his pocket, and they were not able to get sponsorship for him. Also he is close to having to race himself in..I understand the car is hard to drive but he hasn’t got the best finishes he could have. Not really smart at knowing who to race out there, and making sure they get the best finish. Wasn’t even able to get a top ten.

It all comes down to sponsorship period if Brad was able to bring in mega bucks he would be in a HMS satelitte car right now. Penske is making a major investment to attract sponsorship to Brad. Newman left cause he wasn’t able to get sponsorship in mediocre equipment. Kurt able to run well to keep Miller Sponsorship..he should with 25million plus a year on the line they will do anything or spend any amount to make them run well. Plus Roger is a great mentor, its Brad’s best option since the economy is slowly turning around. Not sure how much longer HMS will be on top without Chevy support.

Like Justin but he should have brought home at least a win already they have pretty good equipment in NW but no mentors. Pops in worth his weight in gold. Hey it’s about business and money. Penske was the only one that can afford to take his own money and sponsor a Cup team full time..

]]> By: Deuce http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/08/26/with-brad-k-hendrick-comes-out-smelling-like-a-rose/comment-page-1/#comment-13089 Deuce Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:58:23 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1996#comment-13089 Why is Penske the loser here? First of all, he is getting Stremme out of the 12 car so improvement in performance is the only option. Penske=Winner. Second, if BK leaves after just a season or two, the seat opens up for Justin Algaier, who probably has more upside potential than Brad. Penske = Winner. Lastly, if somehow Penske keeps BK, then he'd have both BK and Algaier in his stable going forward. Penske = Winner. I'm not saying that Hendrick is a loser in this situation, far from it. But I don't think Penske is either. I think the only losers in this situation are Stremme and the 12 team that has had to fix all the cars Stremme broke this year. Why is Penske the loser here? First of all, he is getting Stremme out of the 12 car so improvement in performance is the only option. Penske=Winner. Second, if BK leaves after just a season or two, the seat opens up for Justin Algaier, who probably has more upside potential than Brad. Penske = Winner. Lastly, if somehow Penske keeps BK, then he’d have both BK and Algaier in his stable going forward. Penske = Winner.
I’m not saying that Hendrick is a loser in this situation, far from it. But I don’t think Penske is either. I think the only losers in this situation are Stremme and the 12 team that has had to fix all the cars Stremme broke this year.

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