July 15th, 2009 
T.C. In case you haven’t heard, Jeremy Mayfield has again tested positive for methamphetamines. Jenna Fryer from the Associated Press broke the story about 30 minutes ago. See it here.
After we wrote about Mayfield on two separate occasions (here and here), some pretty serious discussion developed with the lines clearly drawn between commentors. What are your thoughts now about Mayfield? Where do you think this leaves NASCAR? Do you feel differently about him and the situation now then you did before? Let’s hear it…
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This changes everything. I was skeptical about NASCAR and it’s policy, which by the way is still in need of modification, but the testimony from Mayfield’s step-mother Lisa Mayfield has just buried him.
I initially gave Mayfield the benefit of the doubt, but now I just read that his step-mom outed him.
If Jeremy’s Step Mom comments about Jeremy Drug Use is true then that would mean that there has been an Meth Head completing in NASCAR Races since 1998 without raising any suspicions of Drug Use from anybody from NASCAR.
JMHO
Just a question here: What made Lisa Mayfied come forward now and not previously? Or did she come forward earlier and it is just now public knowledge?
Mayfield is finished. Forget the stepmom and the ex. The tests are the tests. This is not a conspiracy this is a drug addict. NASCAR fans that support this man need to go watch water polo. This is a dangerous sport to even be a spectator in much less a driver. A meth head doing 220 MPH isn’t exactly what I had in mind when I spend 3 grand to travel to a race with my family
I am so disappointed. He just better come clean (no pun intended) and admit it like a man and go for rehab. And the step-mother? She is an enabler and just as guilty! She knew and said nothing?! That is wrong and awful!
I was also kind of skeptical about the whole thing. But not anymore.
Not only did he fail the drug test yet again, there is some serious testimony from his stepmom. He is done.
How do you fail a drug test that common sense says is coming? There is no way he didn’t know he was going to be tested again. That is just shocking to me.
Stan really sums up what I believe is the vast majority of fans feel on this subject. What’s crazy is that he hasn’t been put down until now.
If Jeremy is still taking the same prescribed meds and the Claritin-D for allergies the test is going to be the same.
We all know about the wicked stepmother.
NASCAR goes find someone else…
I feel sorry for Mayfield. Not because he’s being “picked on”, but because he has a serious problem and needs help. In my opinion, the people close to Jeremy should be worried about getting him treatment, not about getting him on a race track. I guess the addict is the last one to admit that he’s an addict. I hope he gets the help he needs.
TC.
I forwarded something to you regarding Lisa Mayfield. It’s in your email. I followed some things that Lisa Mayfield was saying in a small time blog here in Las Vegas. Main stream media seems to have missed this minor blog. As you may agree with me – Lisa Mayfield seems to have a bit of an agenda. She’s certainly mad at the man about things that occured within the family. I’m sorry if you get an aneurysm trying to follow the blog. She comes off a bit crazy at times. Ok, most of the time.
I hope that I do not regret sending this. Feel free to expose her blog and that string to your readers.
Some of Lisa Mayfield’s responses to the blog are:
Lisa Mayfield says: May 15, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Are you homosexual for Jeremy?
Lisa Mayfield says: May 14, 2009 at 2:43 pm
I am his stepmother so dont tell me no way. I was married to his dad. We were togather for 10 years. I am in the process of writing a book, so you can read all about it.
Lisa Mayfield says: May 15, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Why should I support Jeremy when he abused and terrorized his father for two solid years and put him in a deep depression causing him to commit suicide? All of you fans are in denial but you will find out.
Lisa Mayfield says: May 18, 2009 at 12:53 pm
when somebody stays up for 4 or 5 days in a row or has irrratic behavior or is always rubbing on their nose or sniffing, are thosa signs of a problem? I made a promise to my husband that I would let the world know how Jeremy was if anything ever happened to him and I intend to keep it. My husband had the name Mayfield before his son did and since I was his wife I intend to keep it whether you or anybody else likes it.
Lisa Mayfield says: May 16, 2009 at 8:09 am
Hey Kathy- I was writing a book before this drug thing ever came out. Go ahead and buy his racing gear because soon they won’t be making it. When you see someone cry every day for two years because their son won’t acknowledge their existence you become bitter at that person. Keep taking up for him. You don’t even know him. You only know the fake Jeremy.
Lisa Mayfield says: May 15, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I am just telling the truth. Nothing works out for drug addicts. It always catches up with them sooner or later.
Lisa Mayfield says: May 18, 2009 at 1:00 pm
What are you talking about? We lived right beside him for 4 years. In fact We all were married at the same church on the same day. You change your last name-I never will.
Lisa Mayfield says: May 30, 2009 at 3:30 pm
This is for Kathy. NO I did not break up his parents. They have been divorced for about 24 years. It is obvious that none of you know anything at all about Jeremy. It’s rediculous that all of you are taking up for someone you dont know.
Lisa Mayfield says: May 27, 2009 at 2:31 pm
What I wish is that you would quit commenting on everything that is written. What are you- the Jeremy Mayfield internet patrol?
Lisa Mayfield says: May 31, 2009 at 2:16 pm
I was never on a free ride. I have worked all my life. Shana and her parents are the ones on a free ride. Jeremy cheated on Christina with Shana and another girl naned Renee and one more that I know of. What’s wrong Jeremy, did I make you mad? M Mottinger didn’t write that-you did. I wish Nascar would test your hair or even your water bottle. I will be testifying for Nascar. Don’t forget I know all your sources too. Stupid no tooth Bruce, Earl ect.
Lisa Mayfield says: May 30, 2009 at 3:19 pm
I wish he would file a lawsuit against me so I could tell the world about his meth problem. If he sued me there is nothing to get. He made sure of that. The last time I checked- this is America and I can say what ever I want.You cant be sued for slander if you are telling the truth.
According to his lawyers the step mom has “issues,” whatever that means, that could be anything from her mental state to having some sort of axe to grind, the key point is another test has been documented as positive for meth.
And note, his lawyer claims to have had their negative sample done at LabCorp (1904 Alexander Drive, Research Triangle Park, NC) and that lab, along with NASCAR’s Aegis Labs, is listed on the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) website as certified.
That said, the dispute seems to be at what level the two labs test at and at this point I’ll have to dig a bit deeper into their data base to see if there are differing levels of testing.
chubdubblub – so what you’re saying is Mayfield is soooo dumb he’s still taking Claritin D and Adderall despite all that’s gone on?
Come on, you really don’t mean that do you?
OR do you?
Good Bye Jeremy.
Marc keep us posted on the dig, I am very interested but the digging is beyond me
truthfully, i just don’t really care anymore. This whole thing has become a fight between a couple of six year olds! I’m expecting the next round of interviews by both sides to consist of “Did too!” “Did not!” and end with Jeremy yelling “Shana, NASCAR won’t let me play in race Sunday!”
It’s funny that Mayfield seems to think that NASCAR is having the tests manipulated. Does he think that they would really set themselves up for the lawsuits that would follow if they were found out? It seems that NASCAR doesn’t have to find ways to speed up the exit of Mayfield from the sport. The guy can’t afford to even attempt races anymore.
as a poster succinctly wrote on another site: “the science never lied.”
step-mother’s allegations aside, mayfield has failed 2 tests and a third — which his lawyer claims was negative — is actually still being done b/c the lab that the lawyer chose, labcorp, apparently can’t perform the tests using the same protocol as aegis.
also, mayfield gave 3 samples on 7/6: 1 at the lab to which his lawyer sent him after mayfield became lost on the way to the nascar-sanctioned lab; one at mayfield’s home, collected by nascar; and another one, w/i one hour of the nascar collection, done by labcorp.
nasacar says “positive for meth”; labcorp says “still working on it but not positive” and there’s no word on the first sample.
and the B sample sits, waiting for agreement on what lab should perform the testing. . .
also, make time to read the comments by mayfield’s now ex-GM: there were cars and crew ready to race but it became apparently to him that mayfield wasn’t looking to actually race: rather, he was looking to sell off the assets. so much for “running the little guy out of the sport.”
I’d hate to be the guy sticking up for an addict, and I don’t want to be labeled a conspiracy theorist either. However, why is it ok for the defendant of a lawsuit to be the one testing the plaintiff? According to his lawyer, the independent (non-nascar) test came back negative. Now I take that with a grain of salt as well, but I kind of think this whole story should be taken with a grain of salt – both sides.
But before I go any further, I want to say this:
Have any of you actually seen a meth addict? They do not look like Jeremy Mayfield. Sunken in cheeks and eyes, lesions, rotting and falling out teeth, massive weight loss. Does this remind you of Mayfield at all? The truthful answer is no, it doesn’t. He’s healthy. He looks healthy. The reason I bring this part up is in reference to his stepmother who claims that he’s been doing meth for 10 years. Umm, no. Meth is not a “casual” drug. It’s not something you do on the weekends after a few drinks and a joint. It’s one of the most addictive drugs out there, the only real equivalent being Heroin. If you’ve been on meth for 10 years, you don’t make the chase 2 years in a row. You can’t physically drive a racecar. It doesn’t happen. Either that part is BS, or Jeremy Mayfield is a miracle case that should be studied by govt agencies.
However, that doesn’t mean that he hasn’t done it recently. He may well have. It’s been a crappy couple of years for him – he may have been depressed. I don’t know. And you don’t know either. That’s the problem with this case for me. He really really doesn’t give the impression of someone with a meth problem, although that is exactly what Nascar wants people to think since they’ve included that affidavit. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t do it either. In the end, Nascar will have their way, bet on that. Mark my words, Jeremy Mayfield – innocent or not – will never see a green flag again.
RaceMonkey – “Have any of you actually seen a meth addict? They do not look like Jeremy Mayfield.”
Why yes I have, via twenty years in the Navy with over a decade as a certified drug councilor and after attending as a witness in numerous Article Thirty-Two hearings for various drug offenses.
That said you make a generalization that’s not true in every case. Think not, well let me ask you this:
Aaron Fike was busted with his “works,” his skank girlfriend and shown to be a heron user in subsequent tests. Did you see any quotes from relatives or close associates saying they knew of his usage?
I never did, but it was widely reported they all collectively said “Who Aaron, No not Aaron, I never would have guessed it.”
Generalizations never work and yes, discounting what Lisa Mayfield has said is probably the best route to take.
Red – “mayfield has failed 2 tests and a third”
That’s not correct.
He had two positive tests from the “A” and “B” sample taken at Richmond. NASCAR, according to court records, tested that sample again by a separate ind independent ad and it was positive.
This test from six July is the fourth positive result.
As an aside to Newracefan I haven’t done any more digging on the Fed’s website but they describe its list of certified labs as “Meeting minimum standards.
That implies to me some labs can’t or won’t test at the same level as others.
what that means in the case of the two labs in question remains to be seen.
Only JM knows the truth. If he indeed use then he should have done what Nascar required of him to come back. He would probably be done and back or close to it by now. I find it hard to believe that ALL these tests are coming back negative. Why not just test his hair? Of course his lawyer will say their test is negative. It’s his job to make a saint of his client. The step mom’s reasons for saying this stuff seem sketchy but she might be looking for a quick few bucks. I feel bad for JM in the fact if he did use or does use now he needs to admit this to himself and seek out the help he needs. What I don’t like is IF he is guilty then he put the lives of all those drivers, crew members, officials and fans in danger. He is sooo lucky noone was hurt. But then again, karma is biting him in his arse big time right now!
marc, I believe that you are missing my point. It may be a generalization, but I’m sure that as a drug counselor you would probably agree that a 10 year drug problem doesn’t lend itself to someone in Jeremy Mayfield’s condition. While I did mention that I really don’t know, I am referring to a likelihood. And I believe that the likelihood stands. It’s possible for sure, but I’ve seen my share of abusers as well and he doesn’t fit the “general” description. As I mentioned before, if he’s a 10-year addict, then he’s a rare case. My point is that he may have very well done it recently. And with Mayfield’s case as opposed to Fike, which many of us are not as familiar with, we’ve seen him publicly much more often. As well as that Fike was on Heroin, and Heroin’s physical effects are not the same as meth’s. And the question about a defendant testing a plaintiff still stands in my mind.
As an addendum to my last comment, I got my grubby little paws on the court doc NASCAR filed.
It specifically states the lab Mayfield and his lawyers have used [LabCorp] does not have the technical capability to determine the correct and positive results Meth returns.
ok, marc, now i’m confused. for the sake of argument, i was only counting the may test as a single positive b/c of the controversy (however manufactured) over the compromising of the B sample. but i agree that there were 2 positives there as both A and B sample tested for meth. i wasn’t aware of a second test of that sample by an independent lab nor of any result. do you have more info on that? was it from the A or B sample from the may test? do you know who the independent lab is who was used?
bottom line: we agree on 3 positives and i’m uninformed on 4. regardless, that’s a whole lotta posiitive out there!
(by the way: great site you’re running! one of my bookmarked sites.)
You had to know this was coming. It does not take this long to get negative results back. Anything beyond a few days is bad. A week is definitely a positive.
Chub – yes, if that combination caused the first positive and he was still taking those same drugs it would cause the subsequent tests to be positive as well.
marc – “so what you’re saying is Mayfield is soooo dumb he’s still taking Claritin D and Adderall despite all that’s gone on?”
Nobody has claimed the guy is smart!
Seriously, after the cluster f* of the testing that went on last week, it is increasingly difficult for me to believe him. If you are truly innocent, you hurry your ass to the lab and take the test. If you are worried about the process and getting screwed, have your attorney meet you there and witness the test and the process.
If you were taking the drug combo for ADD/ADHD and it caused you to test positive, then yes marc….stop taking it! Deal with not being focused for a little while.
@racemonkey: is aegis, in fact, a defendant in the case? or is it just against nascar?
also, i’m more than willing to toss mayfield’s step-mother’s statement out without reservation because, ultimately, it is irrelevant. the science is what matters, not the personalities nor the gossipy tidbits.
@marc: that may be why labcorp still hasn’t produced its results: it can’t replicate the aegis testing protocol.
@racemonkey: never mind: i found the answer and yes, aegis is name as a co-defendant so i guess your question stands.
I’ve seen this so many time before there are no parameters in the 10 panel test they give these guys it does not take into effect the prescribed medication which shows up as the same as meth you can sit there and say but and that is all you will get people on one side saying the test shows meth people on the other saying adderall i know i can’t spell so come up with something else, but what i do know is that without it going to a lab, not a lav who knows the difference in the correct way to say either, those quick test can not tell and he should be able to sue for any of this even getting out maybe even sue the step mom she needs to get a job even if it is at walmart there is nothing wrong with working there those guys do a honest days work for a honest days pay and for those of you that do not think that do your own ordering stocking and pricing on your own dime this man has been racing for quite some time funny how when the money stop flowing to some one who had a since of entitlement the stories just came out I THINK NOT it would be great if the one who made alligations would have to spend 3 years on their own dime making their way then after they struggling bring this up to prove their not in for the money only for the good of the individual nothing else then i could beleaveit
As a former meth user I feel really sorry for Jeremy. I know how hard it is to admit you use thos horrible drug. Is he a junkie? Only he knows that question. Is he a casual user? That’s my bet. Truth is it has all caught up with him. I am sure he has been dodging this bullet for years. Jeremy please do what you need to do and get back on with your life. You are still a young man.
NASCAR has gotten themselves into a big mess. They can argue that Mayfield should not be allowed on the track, but in so doing they have left the impression that he has been driving for 10 years despite a meth problem. They have aligned themselves with Lisa Mayfield who was married to Jeremy’s father, who presumably committed suicide a few years ago. She is also said to be writing a book, which means that her motives are questionable to begin with. And based on the blog noted by Las Vegas Greg, her posts seemed to have started right after the positive test.
They can also file subsequent test results in support of their position, but it seems clear that any subsequent test results from Aegis, itself a litigant in the suit, are naturally tainted.
What we are left with is a situation where if we take the NASCAR arguments at face value, then their system is clearly ineffective because it allowed Mayfield to race even though impaired. It also raises questions as to whether driving while on meth is actually a problem. It is not as if he has had several crashes that he caused or other significant situations which would make people (either other drivers or fans) concerned for their safety.
It isn’t even clear as to what types of problems the use of meth would have. It could enhance concentration to make him a better driver or it could impair judgment making him a more reckless driver (or both).
This is in no way to say that it is a good thing for drivers on meth or any other illegal substance to be on the track. But given that this is no longer a hypothetical concern and is instead a real issue, shouldn’t NASCAR be doing everything it can to remove suspicion from its drug testing program?
“…Have any of you actually seen a meth addict? They do not look like Jeremy Mayfield. Sunken in cheeks and eyes, lesions, rotting and falling out teeth, massive weight loss. Does this remind you of Mayfield at all? The truthful answer is no, it doesn’t. He’s healthy. He looks healthy…”
VERY good point.
Here’s some CREDIBLE background info: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/meth/
Some serious mudslinging on this. Apparently JM is filing a wrongful death lawsuit against his former step mother today implicating her in his father’s death.
That certainly cuts into her credibility – especially if she knew about the drug use for years.
My prediction – JM never races again. The question is whether or not he gets a check from NASCAR to go away.
Excuse me, but I am having a problem with this step-mom testimony. She waits this long why? I think the best thing for the court to do is conduct it’s own drug test. A hair test will reveal any long term use and settle this once and for all. You can’t have one lab showing a positive and another, Jeremy had his own test performed, showing a negative. Neither side has proven their point with me. I want to see a truly independent test.
OMG, Americans loves a witch hunt, always have,,, GET BOYS!!!!..get a rope!!!
You people have NO CLUE what is really going on here. The fact you would even listen to a disgruntled step mother is idiotic, accelerated by the FACT …WHERE HAS SHE BEEN????… until NASCZAR went to court, AND THEN wrangled her…. after JM’s lawsuit.
There is a long history of black bag politics in NASCZAR. Consider “The only NASCAR driver to win two Grand National races in a row from the pole by leading every lap” , Curtis Taylor,,,he was blackballed, and GONE>>> if meth was around back then….he might have failed the test too.
If you cross NASCAR, you are done.
Consider Carl Long, and whatever he did to piss off NASCZAR, and it WAS NOT just a 2nd party’s engine mistake.
shame shame shame….You all sure jump on the band wagon, WHEN YOU DO NOT KNOW FOR A FACT ANYTHING, EXCEPT WHAT ONE PARTY IN A COURT CASE IS TELLING YOU. JEREMY SAYS HE IS INNOCNEBT, IS THIS STILL AMERICA???
not in NASCZAR LAND IT ISNT.
JM WAS A GOOD DRIVER, and now you crucify him based on secret drug tests…. but that is typical of humans.
I dont know if Mayfield uses drugs or not,,, Nascar says he does and he says he doesnt and his Stepmom “appears” to be a bit unstable,,,, it is not out of the question that Nascar is being typical I’m bigger then you and you will believe what I say Nascar b/c,, well b/c they can… What I do know is this will set Nascar back ten years in the eyes of the mainstream media who only recently and begrudgingly acknowledges Nascar as a legitimate sport.. We all better damn well hope Jeremy is a drug user b/c if it is proven he is not Nascar will never recover from this. IMO
Ouch. Quite the rant Garry.
We will have to take back your crayons now.
Can the adults please have the chat room back now?
GH – I agree. This is not good for NASCAR – innocent or guilty. As someone said….a lot of mudslinging going on….everyone ends up with some mud on them when that happens. For years, we have been the sport where this stuff does not happen. Clean cut, guys next door, yada, yada, yada….
Now, while I do discount the stepmom, the sanctioning body has entered into evidence a document declaring one of their drivers has been making/using meth for more than 10 years. Meth is not your typical entry level drug. If using it, you are likely using other drugs too. And meth is not something most people use just sporadically. If what stepmom says is true, you have to think he has been using other drugs and using them all on a regular basis.
So, if guilty, NASCAR ( we as an industry and sanctioning body) look silly that they nobody ever suspected him. If innocent, the lengths NASCAR has gone to crucify him look pretty silly.
What I find reckless is headlines such as the one at the top of this entry:
“Mayfield Tests Positive A Second Time for Meth”
This might as well have been written by a member of NASCAR’s own PR department. Those who only read headlines will conclude that it’s true and the game’s over. Hell, even some so-called “journalists” are jumping on the bandwagon.
Now…if the headline read:
“NASCAR: Mayfield Tests Positive A Second Time for Meth”
…it would give a much more accurate portrayal of what’s really going on, because it would include attribution, i.e., NASCAR said so.
Here’s a column with a much more sobering (no pun intended) perspective. First, a little taste:
“…NASCAR runs its entire testing program. There are no union employees to help negotiate effective polices, to assure the balance and fairness France amazingly speaks about. There is no transparency to the entire process, no complete list of banned substances provided to drivers…
“…There is no basis for how results are collected and recorded, no oversight of any kind outside NASCAR suits and their own laboratory, no arbitration procedure for a swift and final resolution, no binding sanctions in place, no avenue for grievance, no route for appeal before someone is suspended indefinitely, no observance of federal guidelines that allow someone 72 hours to have an independent lab test a sealed backup sample in order to challenge a positive result…”
The rest: http://www.lvrj.com/sports/49971987.html
I don’t know whether JM likes the meth or not, all that I do know is that he has an enormously big mouth & seems to bring his troubles on himself. I’m not so sure people would want to work with him even if his pee pee was clean as a whistle.
I guess the real question is who is telling the truth, Nascar or Mayfield, or rather which lab do you trust doing the tests correctly.
Who would you trust?
Aegis Laboratories, run by one man Dr. Black, with one office in Nashville Tn.
http://www.aegislabs.com/aegislabs.aspx
or:
Labcorp, with hundreds of labs all over the country. listed on the NY stock exchange, with no interests in Nascar.
https://www.labcorp.com/wps/portal/
Marc: “It specifically states the lab Mayfield and his lawyers have used [LabCorp] does not have the technical capability to determine the correct and positive results Meth returns.”
Have you looked at LabCorp website? They are a much bigger company than Aegis, with a lot more resources that Aegis. How could they say that Labcorp doesn’t have the technical capability that Aegis has. I would venture to guess they have much more “technical capability” than Aegis.
Labcorp owns larger companys than Aegis, with far greater abilities
Racemonkey – You have obviously have taken into account the words given by Lisa Mayfield in asserting he’s been a drug addict for ten years.
Considering she’s been pretty much unmasked as a crank that’s not a very wise move. It’s obvious someone with that long a history of meth use would show outward signs of that abuse.
Red – First thanks for the compliments on the site. It takes a lot of hard work just as NASCAR Insiders does and frankly not sure how they do it considering they have day jobs and I have the advantage of being happily retired..
Secondly, to clarify the positive results I count the first test in Richmond as two positive results as both the A and B samples tested positive.
NASCAR entered into the court record when those two were positive they tested those samples again and by a different and independent lab. That makes four positives at that point, plus the test of July six makes five positive tests. At best and not counting both A and B samples he has tested positive times, at worst five times.
If desired contact me via my site’s contact page and I’ll send you the PDF file of that court doc and the one that was filed this week.
As many of you may have heard Mayfield promptly called into the Late Shift on Sirius to tell his side, this is what he said in response to being asked about the tests he took last week:
“Yeah, definitely. And I took it at two different facilities. One was at the Piedmont Urgent Care before their test and another one actually at an emergency room right after their test. And the one I took after their test was, I’m going to say 30, 35 minutes later just to let you know the timeline there. I promise you they’ll show different results than what they show.”
Piedmont Urgent Care isn’t listed as being certified by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA).
The irony of course is Mayfield and his bank of lawyers have contended in their original lawsuit that NASCAR’s drug program is faulty because it fails to follow guidelines set fourth by SAMHSA, yet now Mayfield, presumably on the advice of his lawyers, have used a laboratory that’s not certified by the same government agency.
Obviously you can’t have it both ways, to accuse NASCAR of not following fed guidelines, then use an uncertified lab as proof of anything is disingenuous at best, at worst it’s flat-out stupid.
And frankly I’m not sure what to make of him taking a test in an emergency room. Desperate actions by a desperate man I guess because that test means exactly dog squat.
NOTE to Garry… put down the mouse and slowly back away from the monitor before you hurt yourself.
Henry, why yes I have looked at the LabCorp website and in fact you will see it linked on one of my “Mayfield posts.”
We ain’t takin’ sex here, size means nadda, zip, ziltch in this case.
You can “venture” all the guesses you care to they mean nothing unless you, or I can prove they and Aegis operate at the same standards and at this point I have not had time to do the research into the matter.
But one thing is clear, both Mayfield and his bank of lawyers are trying to claim Piedmont Urgent Care is the proper place to counter NASCAR’s claims.
It’s very plainly not when the lab isn’t certified by the gov agency they [falsely] claim NASCAR has to follow.
Henry – “Aegis Laboratories, run by one man Dr. Black, with one office in Nashville Tn.
And so?
Guess you forgot to mention they also…
“For over twenty years, Aegis® has provided comprehensive drug testing and consultation services to colleges/universities, high schools, and professional/amateur sports organizations throughout the U.S. Aegis® is one of the largest independent Sports Anti-Doping Laboratories in the world.
We provide comprehensive services from policy & procedure development/review to results consultation and interpretation. Aegis® is the official drug-testing sponsor of the College Athletic Trainers’ Society (CATS).
Is it your contention this “one man” as you call him is running a fly-by-night operation that can’t be trusted?
If so, please point me in the direction of any and all complaints and or lawsuits from any of the above named organizations in the twenty-five years Aegis has been in operation.
From everything I have found, Aegis is very well respected in the field and highly specialized. It is well enough respected that it is a consultant to the MLB players association on drug testing. LabCorp is involved in volume testing, whereas Aegis serves a niche market.
It would be much easier to evaluate the situation if someone in the media had made the effort to compare NASCAR’s drug testing program with that of another major racing series.
As I recall the District Court judge’s decision in the injunction hearing, he did not specify that NASCAR’s testing of Mayfield be done by someone other than Aegis.
From what I have read, at this point the only recent drug test that can be assured to have been of Mayfield is the recent test by Aegis where Mayfield was required to give an observed specimen. I have seen nothing written that says that the tests that were done voluntarily involved observed specimens from Mayfield. It is my understanding that the NFL requires that the urine samples for its tests be submitted under observation.
Richard in N.C. – “It would be much easier to evaluate the situation if someone in the media had made the effort to compare NASCAR’s drug testing program with that of another major racing series.”
It would also be nice if someone, anyone, in the media called Mayfield on his propensity to spread BS thicker than the ozone layer.
Specifically to your observation Mayfield claims his first test was submitted while NOT under observation, and has been quoted as saying he never saw the Richmond sample sealed, it comes down to who do you believe.
The filing done by NASCAR for the original lawsuit contained a section that specifically addresses this.
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Aegis’s random and anonymous testing of Mayfield was
conducted in accordance with Aegis’s chain-of-custody procedures set forth in the Affidavits of Thomas L. Carter ((“Carter Aff. (Doc. 21-6)”) ¶¶ 9-18), Mike Roberts ((“Roberts Aff. (Doc. 21-7)” ¶¶ 9-13), and Dr. David L. Black ((“Black Aff. (Doc. 21-2)”) ¶¶ 25-27). Mayfield confirmed the propriety of these procedures and certified that his sample was properly collected and sealed. See Carter Aff. (Doc. 21-6) Ex. 2, Mayfield certification stating that “I certify that I provided my
urine to the collector . . . ; that each specimen bottle used was sealed with a tamper-evident seal in my presence and that the information provided on this form and on the label affixed to each
specimen bottle is correct” (emphasis added).
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Again, who do you want to believe, Mayfield who has demonstrated an ability to stretch the truth on occasion, to be kind, or NASCAR who by filing this section in the counter-lawsuit is subject to criminal penalties by doing so?
Not to mention Thomas L. Carter and Mike Roberts who filed signed affidavits stating they not only witnessed Mayfield and his tally-whacker as to did the deed but watched as he signed and sealed the samples.
There it is Journo and TC — You’ve finally had the first ever usuage of “tally-whacker” at your site. It’s all downhill from here.
I’m admiring how quiet the two of you have been today. It seems as if the natives get restless if you gentlemen share your informed opinion.
It may be best to let others spill the blood here?
Marc- The point I was trying to make was that the only July test so far known to have actually been a test of JM was the one for which the specimen was taken from him under supervision at his home, which is the one that came back positive for meth.
Substitution is the only way to beat a drug test. None of those drinks or recipes work.
The lab JM got ‘lost’ going to was an observation lab, so he had to go to a lab(s) where he could could carry in someone elses’ sample.
He failed the test at the track in richmond because it was a surprise test. They come and get you and you follow. No time to gather or ‘mix’ clean urine (you can buy a powder to make your own on the internet).
He failed the test when they came to his house because it was an observation test.
The tests he did pass was because they were not testing his urine.
Probably his lawyers.
The only way this will ever be fully resolved is if Mayfield is tested by an independent lab capable of differentiating meth from the legal drugs he is taking (Adderall is an amphetamine; Claritin D is a pseudoephedrine. Pseudoephedrines are used to make meth)…AND…this independent lab must also NOT have a vested interest in the outcome. Period.
(And with all the lawyers involved in this one, that’s probably never going to happen.)
Oh, and Marc…are you implying that NASCAR doesn’t stretch the truth? (See: Tim Richmond, Bill Simpson)