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		<title>By: flatheadrider</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/05/28/politics-is-nascars-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-18328</link>
		<dc:creator>flatheadrider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 20:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where to start ? To pick up on Stanley Byrd&#039;s comment above, NASCAR needs to change it&#039;s name to National Association of Race Cars because there ain&#039;t no stock cars racing any more . I followed the sport (?) back in the 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s when it was about racing . It was about the car and the brand, not the driver (ala soap opera). I became a Dodge fan because of Dodges in NASCAR and NHRA (Pro Stock is another issue). Racing was popular because what won on Sunday could be bought on Monday, Talledaga Fords and Daytona Chargers. Manufacturers were about innovation (and sniveling about unfair rules) but it was Dodge against Ford against (yuk) Chevy. It&#039;s not anymore. It&#039;s about Martin against Stewart against Gordon and I DON&#039;T CARE !

The Death of NASCAR started with restricter plates. It was said that they were a safety issue (I take issue with that) and to bring speeds down at the bib tracks. That&#039;s what the wall is for. If you can&#039;t go around without hitting the wall you go back to the garage and reengineer something else.

The Rule Book issue has always been CRAP ! and it&#039;s simple to fix. Throw it out, there&#039;s one rule. The car has to be an american made sedan (I personally like having Toyota and anyone else that wants to jump in the ring try ) powered by a push rod V8 available to the public for purchase (the old 500 rule). Other than that, RUN WHAT YA BRUNG ! No more CoT and leased engines. Get back to basics and real racing. And if you want to keep some kind of cost controls, then make everything a claimes race. N&#039;uff said !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where to start ? To pick up on Stanley Byrd&#8217;s comment above, NASCAR needs to change it&#8217;s name to National Association of Race Cars because there ain&#8217;t no stock cars racing any more . I followed the sport (?) back in the 60&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s when it was about racing . It was about the car and the brand, not the driver (ala soap opera). I became a Dodge fan because of Dodges in NASCAR and NHRA (Pro Stock is another issue). Racing was popular because what won on Sunday could be bought on Monday, Talledaga Fords and Daytona Chargers. Manufacturers were about innovation (and sniveling about unfair rules) but it was Dodge against Ford against (yuk) Chevy. It&#8217;s not anymore. It&#8217;s about Martin against Stewart against Gordon and I DON&#8217;T CARE !</p>
<p>The Death of NASCAR started with restricter plates. It was said that they were a safety issue (I take issue with that) and to bring speeds down at the bib tracks. That&#8217;s what the wall is for. If you can&#8217;t go around without hitting the wall you go back to the garage and reengineer something else.</p>
<p>The Rule Book issue has always been CRAP ! and it&#8217;s simple to fix. Throw it out, there&#8217;s one rule. The car has to be an american made sedan (I personally like having Toyota and anyone else that wants to jump in the ring try ) powered by a push rod V8 available to the public for purchase (the old 500 rule). Other than that, RUN WHAT YA BRUNG ! No more CoT and leased engines. Get back to basics and real racing. And if you want to keep some kind of cost controls, then make everything a claimes race. N&#8217;uff said !</p>
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		<title>By: David K</title>
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		<dc:creator>David K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent comment mert!  If Jr. was in any way living up to his hype, we may not even be having this discussion!

I like the politics, too.  I enjoy the behind-the-scenes crap and who&#039;s jumping ship and sponsorship battles and all that stuff, because it provides more to the character studies of the drivers, chiefs, owners, etc.

and that&#039;s what&#039;s missing... characters!

Aside from Kyle Busch, are there any newer drivers that even seem remotely personable or at all interesting?  I keep hoping Kenny Wallace will come back just to hear what he has to say!  Carl Edwards of course is becoming a household name mostly cuz of the backflip and the Aflac commercials, and that&#039;s what these new drivers have got to do.  They and their teams have got to realize that driving consistently may win championships but it won&#039;t win over fans or sponsors.  They&#039;ve got to be showmen.  Or win races.  Or get into fights.  Or SOMETHING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent comment mert!  If Jr. was in any way living up to his hype, we may not even be having this discussion!</p>
<p>I like the politics, too.  I enjoy the behind-the-scenes crap and who&#8217;s jumping ship and sponsorship battles and all that stuff, because it provides more to the character studies of the drivers, chiefs, owners, etc.</p>
<p>and that&#8217;s what&#8217;s missing&#8230; characters!</p>
<p>Aside from Kyle Busch, are there any newer drivers that even seem remotely personable or at all interesting?  I keep hoping Kenny Wallace will come back just to hear what he has to say!  Carl Edwards of course is becoming a household name mostly cuz of the backflip and the Aflac commercials, and that&#8217;s what these new drivers have got to do.  They and their teams have got to realize that driving consistently may win championships but it won&#8217;t win over fans or sponsors.  They&#8217;ve got to be showmen.  Or win races.  Or get into fights.  Or SOMETHING.</p>
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		<title>By: Garry Pacer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry Pacer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem is spelled M O N O P O L Y.

Looking way back, when France crushed the efforts
to unionize the drivers. I am NOT voiceing
an opinion if that is a good idea or not.
I am ONLY saying the efforts were crushed.

France demonstrated that he was/is the King.

That power has been passed on, but the
ideaolgy is the same. NASCAR rules with
an iron fist, and humans do not react well to 
this. When the people in power, abuse that power, that is when problems occur.

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat.
NASCAR needs to cut the BS, and be fair. 
They should not be toss drivers off with
SECRET drug tests. They should not be able to
&quot;Carl Long&quot; anyone. ( yup, lets coin that term )

NASCAR &quot;Carl Longed&quot; Carl Long.
Who knows what Carl really did, but NASCAR
responed by &quot;Carl Longing&quot; him. : (

This is hurting NASCAR&#039;s image, and could spell doom for them, but it is not too late.

Power corrupts,
Absoute power corrupts absolutey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem is spelled M O N O P O L Y.</p>
<p>Looking way back, when France crushed the efforts<br />
to unionize the drivers. I am NOT voiceing<br />
an opinion if that is a good idea or not.<br />
I am ONLY saying the efforts were crushed.</p>
<p>France demonstrated that he was/is the King.</p>
<p>That power has been passed on, but the<br />
ideaolgy is the same. NASCAR rules with<br />
an iron fist, and humans do not react well to<br />
this. When the people in power, abuse that power, that is when problems occur.</p>
<p>Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat.<br />
NASCAR needs to cut the BS, and be fair.<br />
They should not be toss drivers off with<br />
SECRET drug tests. They should not be able to<br />
&#8220;Carl Long&#8221; anyone. ( yup, lets coin that term )</p>
<p>NASCAR &#8220;Carl Longed&#8221; Carl Long.<br />
Who knows what Carl really did, but NASCAR<br />
responed by &#8220;Carl Longing&#8221; him. : (</p>
<p>This is hurting NASCAR&#8217;s image, and could spell doom for them, but it is not too late.</p>
<p>Power corrupts,<br />
Absoute power corrupts absolutey</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 00:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The single and easiest way to create better racing on &#039;Race DAY&quot;  is to &#039;START PAYING Points or Money to lead laps&quot;
Under the current system there is no incentive to lead, and passing and exchanging the lead is what makes racing better!
This would really help in the middle and early stages or a race where it is most boring!

I think let each lap count a point total up and give the winner a bonus! Then you will see a more exciting race that day, not a Chess Match!

The races are not to long, its the excitement is not long enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The single and easiest way to create better racing on &#8216;Race DAY&#8221;  is to &#8216;START PAYING Points or Money to lead laps&#8221;<br />
Under the current system there is no incentive to lead, and passing and exchanging the lead is what makes racing better!<br />
This would really help in the middle and early stages or a race where it is most boring!</p>
<p>I think let each lap count a point total up and give the winner a bonus! Then you will see a more exciting race that day, not a Chess Match!</p>
<p>The races are not to long, its the excitement is not long enough!</p>
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		<title>By: mert7878</title>
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		<dc:creator>mert7878</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 23:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think many of the comments point to part of the problem but, for my money, the real problem is that Jr. is not winning.  I am not a Jr. fan but, like it or not, he&#039;s the face of the sport.  He is the Tiger Woods of NASCAR.  He is the person the casual fan most associates with the sport.  Can you imagine what would happen to the PGA if Tiger was finishing 38th every week instead of being at or near the top of the leader board week in and week out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think many of the comments point to part of the problem but, for my money, the real problem is that Jr. is not winning.  I am not a Jr. fan but, like it or not, he&#8217;s the face of the sport.  He is the Tiger Woods of NASCAR.  He is the person the casual fan most associates with the sport.  Can you imagine what would happen to the PGA if Tiger was finishing 38th every week instead of being at or near the top of the leader board week in and week out?</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 12:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Marc...Charlotte is one of the markets getting LPMs next year and it&#039;s got people around here on pins and needles.

As long as DVR use increases too, so will alternative ways of advertising.  If people aren&#039;t watching traditional commercials, they&#039;ll show up in the show.  Don&#039;t worry!  They&#039;ve got that covered!

Lesson learned today:  Don&#039;t DVR the race.  Please stay in the room and watch every ad.  It&#039;s good for racing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Marc&#8230;Charlotte is one of the markets getting LPMs next year and it&#8217;s got people around here on pins and needles.</p>
<p>As long as DVR use increases too, so will alternative ways of advertising.  If people aren&#8217;t watching traditional commercials, they&#8217;ll show up in the show.  Don&#8217;t worry!  They&#8217;ve got that covered!</p>
<p>Lesson learned today:  Don&#8217;t DVR the race.  Please stay in the room and watch every ad.  It&#8217;s good for racing.</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross - &lt;em&gt;&quot;I suspect that a lot of NASCAR viewers DVR the race to watch later...&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Over night TV ratings are &lt;a href=&quot;http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-tv-ratings-the-lie-that-keeps-on-giving&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;absolute crap on a stick&lt;/a&gt; also.

As for LPMs &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/230955-Sunbeam_Sues_Nielsen_For_Unlawful_Conduct_.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;controversy and lawsuits&lt;/a&gt; are the operative words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross &#8211; <em>&#8220;I suspect that a lot of NASCAR viewers DVR the race to watch later&#8230;&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Over night TV ratings are <a href="http://fullthrottle.cranialcavity.net/nascar-tv-ratings-the-lie-that-keeps-on-giving" rel="nofollow">absolute crap on a stick</a> also.</p>
<p>As for LPMs <a href="http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/230955-Sunbeam_Sues_Nielsen_For_Unlawful_Conduct_.php" rel="nofollow">controversy and lawsuits</a> are the operative words.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard in N.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard in N.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really interesting. One of the very best sites on the net.

Despite what the mainstream NASCAR media would have you believe, sports attendance and viewership is down for virtually all sports. I still love auto racing and NASCAR, but in today&#039;s environment it doesn&#039;t seem quite as important as it did a year ago. Friday before Mem Day weekend the AP reported that there were unsold tickets for the following Sunday&#039;s Monaco Grand Prix, which is known as F1&#039;s biggest race of the year, and there were noticeably fewer yachts in the harbor. I doubt the media will mention this when they report on lower ratings for the 600.

I may be somewhat biased, but  I believe a big reason for the apparently lower NASCAR interest is that the old media - newspapers and newspaper refugees - almost always find some reason to criticize NASCAR. I&#039;m not sure whether this is because they feel negative NASCAR articles sell or they are still mad about NASCAR&#039;s slow response to Tony Stewart&#039;s run-in with Mike Mulhern a decade or so ago. However, if the media keeps bashing NASCAR and telling their readers how bad NASCAR is, it is going to eventually run some so-called fans off. I&#039;m not saying the media should be cheerleaders for NASCAR, just honest and even-handed rather than constantly negative. Of course the old media&#039;s reward for being constantly negative is that more and more newspapers are dropping their NASCAR beat reporters. Last year while he was still at Yahoo Sports Bob Margolis talked to 50 or more fans in the stands at a race and wrote that the vast majority were pretty well satisfied with NASCAR races.

Oh, and Toyota, you can&#039;t kick their a** if the only ones are in the parking lot - and now that they&#039;ve freed up what they used to spend on F1, within 3 years Honda will be in NASCAR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really interesting. One of the very best sites on the net.</p>
<p>Despite what the mainstream NASCAR media would have you believe, sports attendance and viewership is down for virtually all sports. I still love auto racing and NASCAR, but in today&#8217;s environment it doesn&#8217;t seem quite as important as it did a year ago. Friday before Mem Day weekend the AP reported that there were unsold tickets for the following Sunday&#8217;s Monaco Grand Prix, which is known as F1&#8242;s biggest race of the year, and there were noticeably fewer yachts in the harbor. I doubt the media will mention this when they report on lower ratings for the 600.</p>
<p>I may be somewhat biased, but  I believe a big reason for the apparently lower NASCAR interest is that the old media &#8211; newspapers and newspaper refugees &#8211; almost always find some reason to criticize NASCAR. I&#8217;m not sure whether this is because they feel negative NASCAR articles sell or they are still mad about NASCAR&#8217;s slow response to Tony Stewart&#8217;s run-in with Mike Mulhern a decade or so ago. However, if the media keeps bashing NASCAR and telling their readers how bad NASCAR is, it is going to eventually run some so-called fans off. I&#8217;m not saying the media should be cheerleaders for NASCAR, just honest and even-handed rather than constantly negative. Of course the old media&#8217;s reward for being constantly negative is that more and more newspapers are dropping their NASCAR beat reporters. Last year while he was still at Yahoo Sports Bob Margolis talked to 50 or more fans in the stands at a race and wrote that the vast majority were pretty well satisfied with NASCAR races.</p>
<p>Oh, and Toyota, you can&#8217;t kick their a** if the only ones are in the parking lot &#8211; and now that they&#8217;ve freed up what they used to spend on F1, within 3 years Honda will be in NASCAR.</p>
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		<title>By: Neon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 21:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See that&#039;s why I love this site. If you pay attention you learn something new each time. I propose these Local People Meters (LPMs) that Ross spoke about be installed on every spectator at a Talladega event. Just imagine what we could learn about our ancestors.
You want stock cars? While they weren&#039;t going to be stock, the Trac Series was to have RWD, FI OHC V-8 (or 10) and 2-doors. Too bad Cale Yarborough and company got squashed before starting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See that&#8217;s why I love this site. If you pay attention you learn something new each time. I propose these Local People Meters (LPMs) that Ross spoke about be installed on every spectator at a Talladega event. Just imagine what we could learn about our ancestors.<br />
You want stock cars? While they weren&#8217;t going to be stock, the Trac Series was to have RWD, FI OHC V-8 (or 10) and 2-doors. Too bad Cale Yarborough and company got squashed before starting.</p>
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		<title>By: Savannah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Savannah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 20:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I am watching a race, I often hit the mute button to tune out the announcers.  I have started listening to the radio broadcast while watching it on TV.  This year, Darrel Waltrip has been more annoying than usual with his babbeling.  I cringe to think that we&#039;re fast approaching the broadcast for TNT, and they have the WORST announcers.  Can&#039;t they put the guys from the NASCAR RACEDAY on Speed to announce all of the televised races?  John Roberts, Jeff Hammond and Larry McReynolds would be a good broadcasting trio.  Please, please do anything to save us from Kyle Petty, Andy Peetree and the other one on TNT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I am watching a race, I often hit the mute button to tune out the announcers.  I have started listening to the radio broadcast while watching it on TV.  This year, Darrel Waltrip has been more annoying than usual with his babbeling.  I cringe to think that we&#8217;re fast approaching the broadcast for TNT, and they have the WORST announcers.  Can&#8217;t they put the guys from the NASCAR RACEDAY on Speed to announce all of the televised races?  John Roberts, Jeff Hammond and Larry McReynolds would be a good broadcasting trio.  Please, please do anything to save us from Kyle Petty, Andy Peetree and the other one on TNT!</p>
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