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	<title>Comments on: NASCAR Lowers The Boom On Carl Long, And Rightly So</title>
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		<title>By: Journo</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/05/20/nascar-lowers-the-boom-on-carl-long-and-rightly-so/comment-page-2/#comment-11733</link>
		<dc:creator>Journo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph- Just like David Reutimann, every driver is free to do with their money what they like. NASCAR and teams are not mandating what the drivers spend their money on (nor do I think I care), in fact if they wanted to pay the fine for Carl Long I&#039;m sure NASCAR would be thrilled because they aren&#039;t ever going to see the money otherwise. The issue is everyone knows if it were them with the penalty, Carl Long and all the rest of the drivers wouldn&#039;t be rushing to pay it for them. It&#039;s sad, it&#039;s unfortunate, but the penalty is what it is. No underlying evils, no conspiracies; he broke the rules and is unfortunately faced with a penalty that he can&#039;t afford. While I know Carl doesn&#039;t agree with the penalty, even he admits the motor was too big, it&#039;s just the circumstances that he believes should have exempted him, or lessened the penalty.

In all honesty though, ask yourself this question: if it were a bigger team would people have made the fuss they made?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph- Just like David Reutimann, every driver is free to do with their money what they like. NASCAR and teams are not mandating what the drivers spend their money on (nor do I think I care), in fact if they wanted to pay the fine for Carl Long I&#8217;m sure NASCAR would be thrilled because they aren&#8217;t ever going to see the money otherwise. The issue is everyone knows if it were them with the penalty, Carl Long and all the rest of the drivers wouldn&#8217;t be rushing to pay it for them. It&#8217;s sad, it&#8217;s unfortunate, but the penalty is what it is. No underlying evils, no conspiracies; he broke the rules and is unfortunately faced with a penalty that he can&#8217;t afford. While I know Carl doesn&#8217;t agree with the penalty, even he admits the motor was too big, it&#8217;s just the circumstances that he believes should have exempted him, or lessened the penalty.</p>
<p>In all honesty though, ask yourself this question: if it were a bigger team would people have made the fuss they made?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph J.Palma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph J.Palma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 23:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After spending the last few days reading about Carl Long and his situation, I am sad... Especially because after looking at the &quot;donation list&quot; there is only 1 driver who donated $5,000 That is a filthy shame!!! to think that the top teams have not all rallied together to help Carl Long..are they worried that he might win the 2009 Chase......PLEASE..i am sick of being a NASCAR fan, I am sick of what this sport turned into....BUT..on the other hand is there something were not hearing? is there a THIRD side to this story we know nothing about...because its true we all agree that this whole penalty seemed way out of wack..but I cannot see that pure HUMANITY wouldnt keep someone like Dale jr. or Jimmie, Jeff , Kyle....and the list goes on...Maybe these teams were told NO DONATIONS,,DO WE KNOW..is there an underlying evil?? Because i agree with alot of the above posts..most of you have valid points...but the is 3 sides to everything...I would love to know the TRUTH</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After spending the last few days reading about Carl Long and his situation, I am sad&#8230; Especially because after looking at the &#8220;donation list&#8221; there is only 1 driver who donated $5,000 That is a filthy shame!!! to think that the top teams have not all rallied together to help Carl Long..are they worried that he might win the 2009 Chase&#8230;&#8230;PLEASE..i am sick of being a NASCAR fan, I am sick of what this sport turned into&#8230;.BUT..on the other hand is there something were not hearing? is there a THIRD side to this story we know nothing about&#8230;because its true we all agree that this whole penalty seemed way out of wack..but I cannot see that pure HUMANITY wouldnt keep someone like Dale jr. or Jimmie, Jeff , Kyle&#8230;.and the list goes on&#8230;Maybe these teams were told NO DONATIONS,,DO WE KNOW..is there an underlying evil?? Because i agree with alot of the above posts..most of you have valid points&#8230;but the is 3 sides to everything&#8230;I would love to know the TRUTH</p>
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		<title>By: fireball894</title>
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		<dc:creator>fireball894</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing would make me happier than to see nascar go out of buisness, and see a hodge-podge group of super modifieds get together and run a series of asphalt tracks.  Nascar has &quot;gotten to big for their britches&quot;........ that being said if this deal with NASCRAP trying to railroad people pisses you off, be a real race fan and start attending your local dirt tracks...... you&#039;ll probably find the competition superior than NASCRAP.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing would make me happier than to see nascar go out of buisness, and see a hodge-podge group of super modifieds get together and run a series of asphalt tracks.  Nascar has &#8220;gotten to big for their britches&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;.. that being said if this deal with NASCRAP trying to railroad people pisses you off, be a real race fan and start attending your local dirt tracks&#8230;&#8230; you&#8217;ll probably find the competition superior than NASCRAP&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Garry Pacer</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/05/20/nascar-lowers-the-boom-on-carl-long-and-rightly-so/comment-page-2/#comment-8919</link>
		<dc:creator>Garry Pacer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Until the stop the secret peanlties etc  etc and BS suspensions.
BUT,,,, watch out what I wish for ....eeeekkk : (

Just now,  I am sad to say, they may have stepped and started telling the truth, and the truth hurts.   a report just came out that says the drug was Meth. 

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=558264

leaks are OK, if that is the way NASCAR wants to do it, but please juts tell us. I can take the ruth, and least it is honest.

The can fix it by telling us the facts.... on Carl, if he was &quot;balck listed&quot; tell us. Tell us he was a &quot;what ever it is&quot; , but dont do a BS penalty.

I can handle the truth, I understand politics, and if Carl was not playing nice with others, say that, but dont do a death penalty which makes no sense.

BTW  
I mailed him $110.00 towrds the fine today, hopefully Garry Pacer will show up on his list, to show I am not BSing : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until the stop the secret peanlties etc  etc and BS suspensions.<br />
BUT,,,, watch out what I wish for &#8230;.eeeekkk : (</p>
<p>Just now,  I am sad to say, they may have stepped and started telling the truth, and the truth hurts.   a report just came out that says the drug was Meth. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=558264" rel="nofollow">http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=558264</a></p>
<p>leaks are OK, if that is the way NASCAR wants to do it, but please juts tell us. I can take the ruth, and least it is honest.</p>
<p>The can fix it by telling us the facts&#8230;. on Carl, if he was &#8220;balck listed&#8221; tell us. Tell us he was a &#8220;what ever it is&#8221; , but dont do a BS penalty.</p>
<p>I can handle the truth, I understand politics, and if Carl was not playing nice with others, say that, but dont do a death penalty which makes no sense.</p>
<p>BTW<br />
I mailed him $110.00 towrds the fine today, hopefully Garry Pacer will show up on his list, to show I am not BSing : )</p>
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		<title>By: T.C.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garry: You say you are boycotting until the situation is fixed.  What do you constitute as &quot;fixed?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garry: You say you are boycotting until the situation is fixed.  What do you constitute as &#8220;fixed?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Garry Pacer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry Pacer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the link, I will be mailing my promised $50.00 today to the street address on the web site. 

WE ARE BOYCOTTING NASCAR UNTIL THIS BS IS FIXED. It started last weekend. We did not watch any of the races, and we wont until this is fixed. We are DVRing F1 racing, and watching that, when we need to fill the space vacated by NASCAR : (

I dont want to sound wierd, but, when we have done this before, odd things start to happen. I fear that NASCAR is too arrogant to heed the warnings. Only time will tell, but from Montgomery Wards to GM, bad business leads to bad karma, and that leads to going out of business.

In 2 years when NASCAR wonders what happened,
 they only need to read this website. It is not rocket science. DO PEOPLE RIGHT, AND THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU, and vice versa.

Fair Warning NASCAR&gt;&gt;&gt; a drought is coming. 

WE ARE BOYCOTTING, MEANING ONLY THAT WE WONT WATCH THE RACES OR SUPPORT THE SPONSORS. THIS IS A PASSIVE PROTEST. This is a peaceful protest. 

IT IS WHAT WE WILL NOT BE DOING ( i.e. we wont be spending our money or watching on TV ) THAT SHOULD WORRY NASCAR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the link, I will be mailing my promised $50.00 today to the street address on the web site. </p>
<p>WE ARE BOYCOTTING NASCAR UNTIL THIS BS IS FIXED. It started last weekend. We did not watch any of the races, and we wont until this is fixed. We are DVRing F1 racing, and watching that, when we need to fill the space vacated by NASCAR : (</p>
<p>I dont want to sound wierd, but, when we have done this before, odd things start to happen. I fear that NASCAR is too arrogant to heed the warnings. Only time will tell, but from Montgomery Wards to GM, bad business leads to bad karma, and that leads to going out of business.</p>
<p>In 2 years when NASCAR wonders what happened,<br />
 they only need to read this website. It is not rocket science. DO PEOPLE RIGHT, AND THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU, and vice versa.</p>
<p>Fair Warning NASCAR&gt;&gt;&gt; a drought is coming. </p>
<p>WE ARE BOYCOTTING, MEANING ONLY THAT WE WONT WATCH THE RACES OR SUPPORT THE SPONSORS. THIS IS A PASSIVE PROTEST. This is a peaceful protest. </p>
<p>IT IS WHAT WE WILL NOT BE DOING ( i.e. we wont be spending our money or watching on TV ) THAT SHOULD WORRY NASCAR.</p>
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		<title>By: kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 04:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. was Carl&#039;s intent  to gain an advantage?
2. Does he have a history of cheating?
3. Was the infraction blatant ?
4. Will I attend the November race in Texas like I have for the last  11 years?

but I will be giving to his fund to help pay his fine..

http://www.carl-long.com/donations.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. was Carl&#8217;s intent  to gain an advantage?<br />
2. Does he have a history of cheating?<br />
3. Was the infraction blatant ?<br />
4. Will I attend the November race in Texas like I have for the last  11 years?</p>
<p>but I will be giving to his fund to help pay his fine..</p>
<p><a href="http://www.carl-long.com/donations.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.carl-long.com/donations.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Garry Pacer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry Pacer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a good idea Augie, although I dont know if he will win. Who knows what eveidence NASCAR may actually have ( but we would like to know ). 

All I can say is, NASCAR is using gestapo tactics in something that is supposed to be for fun, as in entertainment. IF NASCAR thinks WE, the people sign thier paychecks, are this stupid, then NASCAR may be in for pay cuts, or out right layoffs.  

NASCAR, please, cut the BS, and get back to what you do best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a good idea Augie, although I dont know if he will win. Who knows what eveidence NASCAR may actually have ( but we would like to know ). </p>
<p>All I can say is, NASCAR is using gestapo tactics in something that is supposed to be for fun, as in entertainment. IF NASCAR thinks WE, the people sign thier paychecks, are this stupid, then NASCAR may be in for pay cuts, or out right layoffs.  </p>
<p>NASCAR, please, cut the BS, and get back to what you do best.</p>
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		<title>By: Augie  Schultz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Augie  Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 18:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have an idea we can get mayfield to pay the fine after he get done wiping nascar face in the mudd..i figure he is gonna walk with millions and millions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have an idea we can get mayfield to pay the fine after he get done wiping nascar face in the mudd..i figure he is gonna walk with millions and millions.</p>
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		<title>By: Garry Pacer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garry Pacer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if this is the correct place to say it,
but,
GREAT WEBSITE YOU HAVE HERE:)

Of course, feel free to post or not post this, 
I just wanted to compliment you, pat you on the back and say &quot;JOB WELL DONE&quot;

I utilized good contact info found here to
email several NASCAR people and tell them
my feelings about &quot;Carl Longing&quot; Carl Long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if this is the correct place to say it,<br />
but,<br />
GREAT WEBSITE YOU HAVE HERE:)</p>
<p>Of course, feel free to post or not post this,<br />
I just wanted to compliment you, pat you on the back and say &#8220;JOB WELL DONE&#8221;</p>
<p>I utilized good contact info found here to<br />
email several NASCAR people and tell them<br />
my feelings about &#8220;Carl Longing&#8221; Carl Long.</p>
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