Comments on: …And Daytona Is In The Books http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/ A blog by insiders for outsiders Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:30:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Ross http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-5438 Ross Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:27:45 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1056#comment-5438 Pushing up the start time spur-of-the-moment would be a nightmare for a television station. Everything is automated now; it's not as easy as flipping a switch. Plus all of the ads that are sold and not shown would mean costly makegoods and no TV station can afford that right now. Pushing up the start time spur-of-the-moment would be a nightmare for a television station. Everything is automated now; it’s not as easy as flipping a switch. Plus all of the ads that are sold and not shown would mean costly makegoods and no TV station can afford that right now.

]]> By: glenc1 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-5410 glenc1 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:50:16 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1056#comment-5410 Kenn--it's easy for TV viewers to just say, let's change the schedule if rain's coming...but it's a lot more complicated at the track. You have advertised a start time, and it's hard to push it up too much with fans still entering and thinking they're going to be on time. There are also the timing of the flyovers, driver intros and all your scheduled activities. I don't think NASCAR has ever been able to push it up more than a few minutes even when they've tried. Just too much going on to get everyone where they need to be. Also--I like Junior a lot, but he just seemed uncharacteristically careless and then later, whiney. Maybe whatever illness he had was lingering; maybe he was just crabby or tired or frustrated, but he didn't seem like himself. Hopefully we won't see that Junior again for a while. BTW, I just checked and there are 38 (I think) trucks entered for California. I was kinda surprised but it looks pretty good--yes, a number of them will probably S&P or be woefully slow...but at least they're there. Kenn–it’s easy for TV viewers to just say, let’s change the schedule if rain’s coming…but it’s a lot more complicated at the track. You have advertised a start time, and it’s hard to push it up too much with fans still entering and thinking they’re going to be on time. There are also the timing of the flyovers, driver intros and all your scheduled activities. I don’t think NASCAR has ever been able to push it up more than a few minutes even when they’ve tried. Just too much going on to get everyone where they need to be.

Also–I like Junior a lot, but he just seemed uncharacteristically careless and then later, whiney. Maybe whatever illness he had was lingering; maybe he was just crabby or tired or frustrated, but he didn’t seem like himself. Hopefully we won’t see that Junior again for a while.

BTW, I just checked and there are 38 (I think) trucks entered for California. I was kinda surprised but it looks pretty good–yes, a number of them will probably S&P or be woefully slow…but at least they’re there.

]]> By: Bobby http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-5405 Bobby Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:47:54 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1056#comment-5405 Of the issues asked about in the post I would like to address the one that really gets to me, cup drivers in the Nationwide series. The argument that cup drivers are needed to fill the stands is a joke. The series was just fine for years and years without half the field being cup drivers. I have been up on my soapbox about this for years, it ticks me off. You don't see Derek Jeter playing AAA ball on the off days. Shaq does not drop by Georgetown whenever the mood strikes him to play in a NCAA game. It should not be allowed at any time for any reason. When the nationwide regulars are racing for 10th is points due to cup involvement in the series it's sad. I understand driver development is a thing of the past. It seems the only requirement to be a cup driver these days is to be able to reach the pedals of a cup car. Joey Logano is a great ARCA driver, with time he will be a great Nationwide driver, but he is not ready for cup racing. Of the issues asked about in the post I would like to address the one that really gets to me, cup drivers in the Nationwide series. The argument that cup drivers are needed to fill the stands is a joke. The series was just fine for years and years without half the field being cup drivers. I have been up on my soapbox about this for years, it ticks me off. You don’t see Derek Jeter playing AAA ball on the off days. Shaq does not drop by Georgetown whenever the mood strikes him to play in a NCAA game. It should not be allowed at any time for any reason. When the nationwide regulars are racing for 10th is points due to cup involvement in the series it’s sad.

I understand driver development is a thing of the past. It seems the only requirement to be a cup driver these days is to be able to reach the pedals of a cup car. Joey Logano is a great ARCA driver, with time he will be a great Nationwide driver, but he is not ready for cup racing.

]]> By: T.C. http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-5401 T.C. Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:30:43 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1056#comment-5401 windowlicker: If the S&P truck teams weren't making money, they wouldn't do it. I know 13K isn't alot, but they are making it work. Kenny: I know of a number of teams that had problems with the right sides. I believe Goodyear said for some tires it was a laminating issue. Newracefan: Yes, Dale Jr.'s crew should have recognized he wasn't legal in the box. The front carrier/changer and the jackman should have recognized it. And the officials will usually let you know fairly quickly. It's better to get the car legal in the box, and lose the track position, then to service it out of the box and lose the lap. About the rain, there is no way NASCAR could have had the track dry in time to finish the race at a decent time. It takes 3 1/2 to 4 hours to dry a big track like that and the rain wasn't going to end anytime soon. windowlicker: If the S&P truck teams weren’t making money, they wouldn’t do it. I know 13K isn’t alot, but they are making it work.

Kenny: I know of a number of teams that had problems with the right sides. I believe Goodyear said for some tires it was a laminating issue.

Newracefan: Yes, Dale Jr.’s crew should have recognized he wasn’t legal in the box. The front carrier/changer and the jackman should have recognized it. And the officials will usually let you know fairly quickly. It’s better to get the car legal in the box, and lose the track position, then to service it out of the box and lose the lap. About the rain, there is no way NASCAR could have had the track dry in time to finish the race at a decent time. It takes 3 1/2 to 4 hours to dry a big track like that and the rain wasn’t going to end anytime soon.

]]> By: Newracefan http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-5390 Newracefan Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:02:34 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1056#comment-5390 TC, Should JR crew have realized the the front tire was on the line and get him to move the car? I can actually understand the hold for a lap. Lets face it; if it was tail end no one would fix it because they would just be at the end of the pack anyway if they took the time to move the car. What was the consensus about the rain out, I heard that it was still raining at 10pm anyway, not to mention having to leave for California by Tuesday TC, Should JR crew have realized the the front tire was on the line and get him to move the car? I can actually understand the hold for a lap. Lets face it; if it was tail end no one would fix it because they would just be at the end of the pack anyway if they took the time to move the car. What was the consensus about the rain out, I heard that it was still raining at 10pm anyway, not to mention having to leave for California by Tuesday

]]> By: Jay Young http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-5389 Jay Young Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:32:35 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1056#comment-5389 On Monday, catching up on websites - to windowlicker - watched Chris Meyers cover football and thought he did/does a great job - but absolutely can't stand him on Nascar - he should be banished. On Monday, catching up on websites – to windowlicker – watched Chris Meyers cover football and thought he did/does a great job – but absolutely can’t stand him on Nascar – he should be banished.

]]> By: Joe W. http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-5387 Joe W. Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:56:56 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1056#comment-5387 I want to congratulate Matt Kenseth and Jack Roush on the win. Good job! I think the race was O.K. but would have been better if Carl Edwards, Jamie Mac and Jimmie Johnson had not been taken out. The Nationwide race was by far the best of the three this weekend with a great finish. The truck race was terrible. Why does that "Onion" Todd Bodine get away with causing a huge wreck and nobody says a thing. He does it all the time!! I am sick of him and his Toyota. Again congrats to Matt!! I want to congratulate Matt Kenseth and Jack Roush on the win. Good job! I think the race was O.K. but would have been better if Carl Edwards, Jamie Mac and Jimmie Johnson had not been taken out. The Nationwide race was by far the best of the three this weekend with a great finish. The truck race was terrible. Why does that “Onion” Todd Bodine get away with causing a huge wreck and nobody says a thing. He does it all the time!! I am sick of him and his Toyota. Again congrats to Matt!!

]]> By: Kenn Fong http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-5386 Kenn Fong Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:50:47 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1056#comment-5386 T.C., Did you see any problems with the right-sides? On one stop, the 14 reported both right-sides had two blisters each. West Coast Kenny Alameda, California T.C.,

Did you see any problems with the right-sides? On one stop, the 14 reported both right-sides had two blisters each.

West Coast Kenny
Alameda, California

]]> By: Ross http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-5384 Ross Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:34:12 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1056#comment-5384 What I don't get is why they didn't finish the race today? Tons of people have the day off (not me) so viewership would be pretty decent. Would that make it too much of a crunch to get to California? What I don’t get is why they didn’t finish the race today? Tons of people have the day off (not me) so viewership would be pretty decent. Would that make it too much of a crunch to get to California?

]]> By: Kenn Fong http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/02/15/and-daytona-is-in-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-5383 Kenn Fong Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:09:13 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=1056#comment-5383 T.C., It’s racecasts like this which make me miss John Daly even more. NASCAR had access to the same weather radar that we had. Would it have been that great a tragedy to shorten the Fox pre-race and cut Keith Urban to one song? (I understand the financial commitment to bring him in, so they couldn’t just cut him completely.) I wonder what all this means to the casual fans? Aren’t they getting a mixed message? Are they tuning in to see the Daytona 500 or a children’s cartoon series starring Digger or a Keith Urban concert? I agree with Tommy. Out here on the West Coast, an 11 AM green flag would have been just fine. I was grateful to DirecTV for bringing back HotPass, even though they crippled a number of features. Now they run both the network audio and the scanner audio together, and I think the network audio needs to be potted down about 10%. I really miss Phil Parsons and Adam Alexander calling the race, but I understand the economics. I wish they’d advertise it though, because it’s still a very good amenity which would bring customers to DIrecTV. As a loyal Junior fan, I am very upset with his driving last week. I hope his sister gets him to visit a performance specialist/sports psychologist. There’s no reason for him to overshoot his pit stall 3 times at Daytona (twice in the Duel) and once during the race, and clean miss it during the 500. I have to believe he was trying too hard to make up all that time which led him to clip Vickers when Vickers came down to protect the Lucky Dog. I listened over and over again to the scanner on Hot Pass, and I wished that T.J. Majors had told him Vickers would protect the Lucky Dog. However, I wonder, since he’d made up 35 positions earlier in the race, if Junior wasn’t trying to race his way back onto the lead lap. I think he probably had enough car to do it. Still, I think Junior had to lift, and I think it was up to T.J. to tell him he was below the double yellow and to lift and blend back in. I don’t think Junior has a malicious bone in his body — I might be naive — so I don’t think it was a deliberate tap. Junior is too experienced to do that deliberately, because he has to know tapping the left rear quarterpanel would have caused the big one. West Coast Kenny Alameda, California T.C.,

It’s racecasts like this which make me miss John Daly even more.

NASCAR had access to the same weather radar that we had. Would it have been that great a tragedy to shorten the Fox pre-race and cut Keith Urban to one song? (I understand the financial commitment to bring him in, so they couldn’t just cut him completely.)

I wonder what all this means to the casual fans? Aren’t they getting a mixed message? Are they tuning in to see the Daytona 500 or a children’s cartoon series starring Digger or a Keith Urban concert? I agree with Tommy. Out here on the West Coast, an 11 AM green flag would have been just fine.

I was grateful to DirecTV for bringing back HotPass, even though they crippled a number of features. Now they run both the network audio and the scanner audio together, and I think the network audio needs to be potted down about 10%. I really miss Phil Parsons and Adam Alexander calling the race, but I understand the economics. I wish they’d advertise it though, because it’s still a very good amenity which would bring customers to DIrecTV.

As a loyal Junior fan, I am very upset with his driving last week. I hope his sister gets him to visit a performance specialist/sports psychologist. There’s no reason for him to overshoot his pit stall 3 times at Daytona (twice in the Duel) and once during the race, and clean miss it during the 500. I have to believe he was trying too hard to make up all that time which led him to clip Vickers when Vickers came down to protect the Lucky Dog.

I listened over and over again to the scanner on Hot Pass, and I wished that T.J. Majors had told him Vickers would protect the Lucky Dog. However, I wonder, since he’d made up 35 positions earlier in the race, if Junior wasn’t trying to race his way back onto the lead lap. I think he probably had enough car to do it.

Still, I think Junior had to lift, and I think it was up to T.J. to tell him he was below the double yellow and to lift and blend back in. I don’t think Junior has a malicious bone in his body — I might be naive — so I don’t think it was a deliberate tap. Junior is too experienced to do that deliberately, because he has to know tapping the left rear quarterpanel would have caused the big one.

West Coast Kenny
Alameda, California

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