Comments on: EGR’s “Technical Alliance” http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/01/28/egrs-technical-alliance/ A blog by insiders for outsiders Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:30:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: 4310 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/01/28/egrs-technical-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-5044 4310 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:54:32 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=957#comment-5044 Neon they have any track that has a Cup, Nationwide, Truck, Campingworld East or West sanction tied up fairly well. The way the testing band is worded it refers to teams, organizations, and affiliate groups as defined by the rule book. The racing world is so small, if you showed up with a car to test for another organization because you were being paid by that organization to do it; NASCAR would find out about it almost immediately. At that point you would probably be consider an affiliate group by the rule book and therefore in violation of the testing ban. NASCAR’s reaction to that would more than likely involve penalties against that team rather than sanctions against the track that allowed the test. So between the testing policy and the tire lease policy they have it covered fairly well. This has been in evolution since November which is more than enough time to get folks on the same sheet of music. I think that the tire policy may have some issues with tire accountability we will see on that one; it is a short document that has a lot in it, but I see some tires slipping thru the cracks. Neon they have any track that has a Cup, Nationwide, Truck, Campingworld East or West sanction tied up fairly well. The way the testing band is worded it refers to teams, organizations, and affiliate groups as defined by the rule book. The racing world is so small, if you showed up with a car to test for another organization because you were being paid by that organization to do it; NASCAR would find out about it almost immediately. At that point you would probably be consider an affiliate group by the rule book and therefore in violation of the testing ban. NASCAR’s reaction to that would more than likely involve penalties against that team rather than sanctions against the track that allowed the test. So between the testing policy and the tire lease policy they have it covered fairly well. This has been in evolution since November which is more than enough time to get folks on the same sheet of music. I think that the tire policy may have some issues with tire accountability we will see on that one; it is a short document that has a lot in it, but I see some tires slipping thru the cracks.

]]> By: Neon http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/01/28/egrs-technical-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-5031 Neon Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:10:25 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=957#comment-5031 I wonder if NASCAR has a stranglehold on "all" tracks that host a sanctioned event. Basically stating that if any team (uh company or just a bunch of yayhoos) attempts to rent your track and they bring anything that resembles a COT, NW car or Truck....you could potentially lose your race date(s) if you accept fees. With the whole testing ban coming so quickly last year, how many of these type of details are "worked out". I wonder if NASCAR has a stranglehold on “all” tracks that host a sanctioned event. Basically stating that if any team (uh company or just a bunch of yayhoos) attempts to rent your track and they bring anything that resembles a COT, NW car or Truck….you could potentially lose your race date(s) if you accept fees.
With the whole testing ban coming so quickly last year, how many of these type of details are “worked out”.

]]> By: 4310 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/01/28/egrs-technical-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-5029 4310 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:32:07 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=957#comment-5029 That's the only problem with your plan Neon. If you have are outside of NASCAR's umbrella and you are not an owner you would Not be able to lease tires from Goodyear. Goodyear will not sell them to you; according to the 2009 lease policy you have to be a team to get them. That’s the only problem with your plan Neon. If you have are outside of NASCAR’s umbrella and you are not an owner you would Not be able to lease tires from Goodyear. Goodyear will not sell them to you; according to the 2009 lease policy you have to be a team to get them.

]]> By: Grover http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/01/28/egrs-technical-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-5027 Grover Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:58:50 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=957#comment-5027 That ban on testing seems to be saving them lots of money.... oh wait now they are funding a car just to run setups during practice and the race.... Never mind. Smokey Yunick would be proud. Seriously thats rather good thinking your way around a problem. That ban on testing seems to be saving them lots of money…. oh wait now they are funding a car just to run setups during practice and the race…. Never mind.

Smokey Yunick would be proud. Seriously thats rather good thinking your way around a problem.

]]> By: Steve C http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/01/28/egrs-technical-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-5024 Steve C Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:19:52 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=957#comment-5024 I think these alliances could be a good thing for teams that have been -sub- par preformers in the past, it is a way for Teams to become a super team allowing them to compete with the hendricks, roush teams ect,ect. But I also see these alliances as a way for teams to exceed the 4 car cap (look at Roush) Don't you think NASCAR will put a cap on these alliances? I think these alliances could be a good thing for teams that have been -sub- par preformers in the past, it is a way for Teams to become a super team allowing them to compete with the hendricks, roush teams ect,ect. But I also see these alliances as a way for teams to exceed the 4 car cap (look at Roush) Don’t you think NASCAR will put a cap on these alliances?

]]> By: Neon http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2009/01/28/egrs-technical-alliance/comment-page-1/#comment-5023 Neon Thu, 29 Jan 2009 13:59:05 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=957#comment-5023 Journo-Very interesting article. I assume the team that declined the EGR offer, originally, was a top team and not Front Row that you suspect would be the test (“R&D”) team? I say the R&D team, because technically wouldn’t the 15 car would be racing and not just testing? Maybe “testing” parts/set-ups during actual races (ie Greg Sacks in winning the 1985 Daytona Fireracker 400 acting as an R&D driver for DiGard Motorsports). This leads me to a question: Let’s say I develop a team w/ no intention of entering Cup races. I build/buy some COT’s and offer my services to an actual cup team(s). I am a team outside of NASCAR’s umbrella and only selling my services to those within. I can then test anywhere at anytime, as I have no restrictions? Right? Guess I just need to secure plenty of Goodyear “leased” tires! Journo-Very interesting article. I assume the team that declined the EGR offer, originally, was a top team and not Front Row that you suspect would be the test (“R&D”) team? I say the R&D team, because technically wouldn’t the 15 car would be racing and not just testing? Maybe “testing” parts/set-ups during actual races (ie Greg Sacks in winning the 1985 Daytona Fireracker 400 acting as an R&D driver for DiGard Motorsports).
This leads me to a question: Let’s say I develop a team w/ no intention of entering Cup races. I build/buy some COT’s and offer my services to an actual cup team(s). I am a team outside of NASCAR’s umbrella and only selling my services to those within. I can then test anywhere at anytime, as I have no restrictions? Right? Guess I just need to secure plenty of Goodyear “leased” tires!

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