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	<title>Comments on: Does Anyone Care Jimmie Won?</title>
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		<title>By: Lou</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/11/18/does-anyone-care-jimmie-won/comment-page-1/#comment-19330</link>
		<dc:creator>Lou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the most part, the fans really don&#039;t care that he won. No matter how many bloggers or NASCAR folks tell us we should. The racing is just way too boring. Even if JJ wasn&#039;t running away with everything, it&#039;d still be boring. I&#039;ve been a fan of the sport for 20+ years, and it&#039;s not that I&#039;m pining for the good old days. But the current NASCAR management has managed to wring all of the excitement out of what used to be a pretty cool sport. It&#039;s sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the most part, the fans really don&#8217;t care that he won. No matter how many bloggers or NASCAR folks tell us we should. The racing is just way too boring. Even if JJ wasn&#8217;t running away with everything, it&#8217;d still be boring. I&#8217;ve been a fan of the sport for 20+ years, and it&#8217;s not that I&#8217;m pining for the good old days. But the current NASCAR management has managed to wring all of the excitement out of what used to be a pretty cool sport. It&#8217;s sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a fan from England i don&#039;t get to attend much racing but as a new fan the there are to many 1.5 mile tracks ,simple as that. I only look faward to Daytona,Tallgdega,Bristol,Martinsville and and a few others and the road courses. We want an all round champ ,not like F1 where all the clasic tracks in Europe  are being taken out of favour for Midle East and Far east stirile money making venues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a fan from England i don&#8217;t get to attend much racing but as a new fan the there are to many 1.5 mile tracks ,simple as that. I only look faward to Daytona,Tallgdega,Bristol,Martinsville and and a few others and the road courses. We want an all round champ ,not like F1 where all the clasic tracks in Europe  are being taken out of favour for Midle East and Far east stirile money making venues.</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/11/18/does-anyone-care-jimmie-won/comment-page-1/#comment-4032</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 10:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the lack of attention that Jimmie&#039;s championship garnered was a result of several things, fan apathy being the most significant.

Jimmie doesn&#039;t get the same kind of resentment that Jeff did when he was winning 13 races, but as Dale Earnhardt used to say, being booed was better than noone giving a damn.  I think Jimmie has the same problem that many of today&#039;s drivers have in the fact that they have little to no persona.

Nascar&#039;s PR strategy with promoting these drivers has led to a bland, emotionless bunch (with the exception of Dale, Jr) who don&#039;t have the same rabid fan support that their predecessors had.

This may make sponsors happy, but ultimately its the fan support that decides whether these sponsors achieve their business goals and remain in the sport.  Frankly, as we&#039;ve seen lately, many of the sponsors and fans are not happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the lack of attention that Jimmie&#8217;s championship garnered was a result of several things, fan apathy being the most significant.</p>
<p>Jimmie doesn&#8217;t get the same kind of resentment that Jeff did when he was winning 13 races, but as Dale Earnhardt used to say, being booed was better than noone giving a damn.  I think Jimmie has the same problem that many of today&#8217;s drivers have in the fact that they have little to no persona.</p>
<p>Nascar&#8217;s PR strategy with promoting these drivers has led to a bland, emotionless bunch (with the exception of Dale, Jr) who don&#8217;t have the same rabid fan support that their predecessors had.</p>
<p>This may make sponsors happy, but ultimately its the fan support that decides whether these sponsors achieve their business goals and remain in the sport.  Frankly, as we&#8217;ve seen lately, many of the sponsors and fans are not happy.</p>
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		<title>By: SallyB</title>
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		<dc:creator>SallyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the ratings and attendance numbers are pretty telling about how many people care that JJ won his 3rd title.  The apathy Nascar has produced on the track is spilling over.  I&#039;ts not that I hate JJ, it&#039;s just that i really don&#039;t care that much who wins the (now) watered down title.  I never really did.  All I care about is seeing good, hard racing.  The overabundance of 1 1/2 mile tracks has an effect on that.  Short track lend themselves to more &#039;rubbing is racing&#039;, which is now down to 4 races a year.  There really aren&#039;t even manufacturers to root for now, with the generic COT.  Does anyone really care what engine is under the hood if it isn&#039;t off someone&#039;s production line?  And, while money has always been able to buy speed, good old fashioned ingenuity used to count for a lot.  Now, the cars as so standardized that the computer geeks are now the most important team members.   I won&#039;t even get into the issue of trying to turn the championship into a gimmicky not-a-playoff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the ratings and attendance numbers are pretty telling about how many people care that JJ won his 3rd title.  The apathy Nascar has produced on the track is spilling over.  I&#8217;ts not that I hate JJ, it&#8217;s just that i really don&#8217;t care that much who wins the (now) watered down title.  I never really did.  All I care about is seeing good, hard racing.  The overabundance of 1 1/2 mile tracks has an effect on that.  Short track lend themselves to more &#8216;rubbing is racing&#8217;, which is now down to 4 races a year.  There really aren&#8217;t even manufacturers to root for now, with the generic COT.  Does anyone really care what engine is under the hood if it isn&#8217;t off someone&#8217;s production line?  And, while money has always been able to buy speed, good old fashioned ingenuity used to count for a lot.  Now, the cars as so standardized that the computer geeks are now the most important team members.   I won&#8217;t even get into the issue of trying to turn the championship into a gimmicky not-a-playoff!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmie Johnson and the 48 team did what they&#039;re supposed to do to win these championships in this day and age. I&#039;m personally with the crowd that likes a motorsports championship to reflect the teams total performance over the entire season. This year, the 48 team really earned it as they would have won under the old system as well. So hats off to them!

I have never liked the chase. Motorsports as a rule don&#039;t lend themselves to a playoff format. It&#039;s not a stick and ball sport. I&#039;d like to see the Chase go away in favor of a points system that awards the championship to the team that does the best from the green flag at the Daytona 500 to the checkers at Homestead. The previous system did that, but it did need a few adjustments to be sure the second place finisher did not walk away with more pints than the race winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie Johnson and the 48 team did what they&#8217;re supposed to do to win these championships in this day and age. I&#8217;m personally with the crowd that likes a motorsports championship to reflect the teams total performance over the entire season. This year, the 48 team really earned it as they would have won under the old system as well. So hats off to them!</p>
<p>I have never liked the chase. Motorsports as a rule don&#8217;t lend themselves to a playoff format. It&#8217;s not a stick and ball sport. I&#8217;d like to see the Chase go away in favor of a points system that awards the championship to the team that does the best from the green flag at the Daytona 500 to the checkers at Homestead. The previous system did that, but it did need a few adjustments to be sure the second place finisher did not walk away with more pints than the race winner.</p>
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		<title>By: ginger</title>
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		<dc:creator>ginger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone care if Jimmie won?  Nope!  Chad had 80% of that win and Jimmie had the other 20%.  Without Chad, Carl would have won the championship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone care if Jimmie won?  Nope!  Chad had 80% of that win and Jimmie had the other 20%.  Without Chad, Carl would have won the championship.</p>
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		<title>By: The Old Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Old Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, it doesn&#039;t matter how you slice the pie or how much spin you put on it, Jimmie Johnson&#039;s three in a row do not equal those of Cale.

The system under which championships are determined is a farce.

Carl won this years championship and Jeff Gordon won it in 2007 &amp; 2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, it doesn&#8217;t matter how you slice the pie or how much spin you put on it, Jimmie Johnson&#8217;s three in a row do not equal those of Cale.</p>
<p>The system under which championships are determined is a farce.</p>
<p>Carl won this years championship and Jeff Gordon won it in 2007 &amp; 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the third season Jimmie has bored the audiences of NASCAR races.  I attended homestead and didn&#039;t purchase tickets until I got there.  Why?  No Drama.  The commentators and commercials tried their best to create it, but it wasn&#039;t there.  For three years we&#039;ve waited for a mistake by the 48 team.  A mechanical failure or a rivalry to challenge his dominance.  Nothing.  I&#039;m sorry, but it&#039;s boring.  The reason people don&#039;t care is because people aren&#039;t surprised.  The Homestead finale was predictable at best and forgettable at worse.  I spent the last laps perusing the souvenir trailers for &quot;end of the season&quot; deals.  That was actually worth it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the third season Jimmie has bored the audiences of NASCAR races.  I attended homestead and didn&#8217;t purchase tickets until I got there.  Why?  No Drama.  The commentators and commercials tried their best to create it, but it wasn&#8217;t there.  For three years we&#8217;ve waited for a mistake by the 48 team.  A mechanical failure or a rivalry to challenge his dominance.  Nothing.  I&#8217;m sorry, but it&#8217;s boring.  The reason people don&#8217;t care is because people aren&#8217;t surprised.  The Homestead finale was predictable at best and forgettable at worse.  I spent the last laps perusing the souvenir trailers for &#8220;end of the season&#8221; deals.  That was actually worth it!</p>
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		<title>By: FunkyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>FunkyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimmie Johnson is no Cale Yarborough.  It it wasn&#039;t for all the 1½-mile cookie cutter tracks that he thrives on, Johnson wouldn&#039;t even have 1 championship, let alone 3.

The arrogance of the whole 48 team is a big turn-off for me, and a lot of other fans.  Jimmie may be a decent fellow, but he is about the most boring personality in the sport.  I&#039;m not suggesting he fake emotion to boost his populatity (which wouldn&#039;t work in the long run, anyway), but he has failed to connect with a lot of us.  Plus his team&#039;s reputation (and history) for cheating hasn&#039;t helped his cause.

This season sucked.  I&#039;m not hopeful about next year, either.  I had primo tickets to Homestead.  Previous years, wild horses wouldn&#039;t have kept me away, but this year, I hawked them on eBay.  It really isn&#039;t worthwhile anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimmie Johnson is no Cale Yarborough.  It it wasn&#8217;t for all the 1½-mile cookie cutter tracks that he thrives on, Johnson wouldn&#8217;t even have 1 championship, let alone 3.</p>
<p>The arrogance of the whole 48 team is a big turn-off for me, and a lot of other fans.  Jimmie may be a decent fellow, but he is about the most boring personality in the sport.  I&#8217;m not suggesting he fake emotion to boost his populatity (which wouldn&#8217;t work in the long run, anyway), but he has failed to connect with a lot of us.  Plus his team&#8217;s reputation (and history) for cheating hasn&#8217;t helped his cause.</p>
<p>This season sucked.  I&#8217;m not hopeful about next year, either.  I had primo tickets to Homestead.  Previous years, wild horses wouldn&#8217;t have kept me away, but this year, I hawked them on eBay.  It really isn&#8217;t worthwhile anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: vdeputy</title>
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		<dc:creator>vdeputy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, back in Cale&#039;s day, you were allowed to pull your car in and replace the engine and go back out on the track, which Cale did more than once. Not taking anything away from him but now if your car is gone, its gone and your day ends in a DNF.

Secondly, no, Carl would not have necessarily won under the old system. For one thing, if the points lead had been switched, both Jimmie and Carl would have employed different strategies at Homestead. It would have been Carl cautiously protecting his points lead and Jimmie going for broke and he had a fast enough car, he likely would have won under that scenario.

Third, Jimmie does admit his mistakes. I&#039;ve heard him admit he screwed up in several cases. If you don&#039;t acknowledge that, I think you are just blinded by your biases.

I care that Jimmie won. I think he&#039;s a terrific driver with a terrific team. His accomplishment is at least equal to Cale&#039;s. So many elements of racing are different, I&#039;m not sure you can compare the two on any meaningful level but 3 championships is a rare achievement under any system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, back in Cale&#8217;s day, you were allowed to pull your car in and replace the engine and go back out on the track, which Cale did more than once. Not taking anything away from him but now if your car is gone, its gone and your day ends in a DNF.</p>
<p>Secondly, no, Carl would not have necessarily won under the old system. For one thing, if the points lead had been switched, both Jimmie and Carl would have employed different strategies at Homestead. It would have been Carl cautiously protecting his points lead and Jimmie going for broke and he had a fast enough car, he likely would have won under that scenario.</p>
<p>Third, Jimmie does admit his mistakes. I&#8217;ve heard him admit he screwed up in several cases. If you don&#8217;t acknowledge that, I think you are just blinded by your biases.</p>
<p>I care that Jimmie won. I think he&#8217;s a terrific driver with a terrific team. His accomplishment is at least equal to Cale&#8217;s. So many elements of racing are different, I&#8217;m not sure you can compare the two on any meaningful level but 3 championships is a rare achievement under any system.</p>
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