Comments on: Standings If There Had Been No Chase: Part 1 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/10/26/standings-if-there-had-been-no-chase-part-1/ A blog by insiders for outsiders Thu, 09 Feb 2012 00:03:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brats and Beer for Me! http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/10/26/standings-if-there-had-been-no-chase-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3534 Brats and Beer for Me! Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:30:53 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=352#comment-3534 NASCAR, the only interesting race they have is at a place called Watkins Glen. Starting, stopping, turn left then turn right is racing. Now...making NASCAR interesting...I think there should be more races turned into the format used for the allstars race at Charlotte. Get this idead...Take and give points for the Daytona Qualifiers only give them super bonus (double) points for the top 12 finishers. Then do INDY the same way...have qualifying races with super bonus points for the Top 12. Then do the same for the ALLSTAR race in Charlotte. Then let the rest of the season run as scheduled until Homestead and do the same race format as the other super bonus point playing tracks. Then the pressure to perform ALL year will bear out the best. Using this format you would probably find that the Best at the first of the year would be racing against the best in the middle of the year against the best at the end of the year. K.Busch vs Carl Edwards vs Jimmy Johnson. 3 way shoot out at homestead. Besides with the present Chase format if you got really hot and won 6 races during the chase and had top 5's all the rest of the races you could not win the championship because the current format locks anyone who might be able to do it out! NASCAR, the only interesting race they have is at a place called Watkins Glen. Starting, stopping, turn left then turn right is racing. Now…making NASCAR interesting…I think there should be more races turned into the format used for the allstars race at Charlotte. Get this idead…Take and give points for the Daytona Qualifiers only give them super bonus (double) points for the top 12 finishers. Then do INDY the same way…have qualifying races with super bonus points for the Top 12. Then do the same for the ALLSTAR race in Charlotte. Then let the rest of the season run as scheduled until Homestead and do the same race format as the other super bonus point playing tracks. Then the pressure to perform ALL year will bear out the best. Using this format you would probably find that the Best at the first of the year would be racing against the best in the middle of the year against the best at the end of the year. K.Busch vs Carl Edwards vs Jimmy Johnson. 3 way shoot out at homestead. Besides with the present Chase format if you got really hot and won 6 races during the chase and had top 5′s all the rest of the races you could not win the championship because the current format locks anyone who might be able to do it out!

]]> By: Neon http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/10/26/standings-if-there-had-been-no-chase-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3136 Neon Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:37:59 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=352#comment-3136 When you think about it, the Cup season breaks down the same way a typical Cup race pans out. We start with the Super Bowl first (Daytona), just like the start of the race its pretty exciting. By mid season we're points racing, just trying to get track position and stay on the lead lap. Into the Chase, Nascar throws the proverbial debris caution (the Chase itself) to keep things close. Be it points or in the race. Then comes Johnson and Knaus and now NASCAR needs another strategy insure a green-white-checker. What next? Inverted starts? One thing NASCAR "has" to do is improve the quality and excitement of qualifying. I love racing, but with the exception of Infineon or Watkins Glen, will not be caught dead watching single car snoozefest on Friday's. When you think about it, the Cup season breaks down the same way a typical Cup race pans out. We start with the Super Bowl first (Daytona), just like the start of the race its pretty exciting. By mid season we’re points racing, just trying to get track position and stay on the lead lap. Into the Chase, Nascar throws the proverbial debris caution (the Chase itself) to keep things close. Be it points or in the race. Then comes Johnson and Knaus and now NASCAR needs another strategy insure a green-white-checker. What next? Inverted starts?
One thing NASCAR “has” to do is improve the quality and excitement of qualifying. I love racing, but with the exception of Infineon or Watkins Glen, will not be caught dead watching single car snoozefest on Friday’s.

]]> By: Don http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/10/26/standings-if-there-had-been-no-chase-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3131 Don Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:38:58 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=352#comment-3131 The chase did what Nascar desired the first 4 years, it made the point battle closer and down to the last race. (Of those 4 years 2 would have won the old way and 2 would not have.) This year is different, the points would actually be closer under the old format. Yes Johnson would still be out front, but by less than 100 points at this juncture. The chase did what Nascar desired the first 4 years, it made the point battle closer and down to the last race. (Of those 4 years 2 would have won the old way and 2 would not have.)
This year is different, the points would actually be closer under the old format. Yes Johnson would still be out front, but by less than 100 points at this juncture.

]]> By: Village Idiot Intern http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/10/26/standings-if-there-had-been-no-chase-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3111 Village Idiot Intern Mon, 27 Oct 2008 21:44:43 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=352#comment-3111 My ideas for the chase lean to the opposite position of the above posters. In my opinion, the excitement level of the chase needs to be elevated. Cut the chase in half. That's right, five chase races. Don't drag it out like MLB's postseaston. Make it five races, short and sweet. And to further add to the excitement, reset the points of the top twenty! Five races, twenty drivers, mayhem galore. No coast and collect driving here, boys. All you got, every lap. My ideas for the chase lean to the opposite position of the above posters. In my opinion, the excitement level of the chase needs to be elevated. Cut the chase in half. That’s right, five chase races. Don’t drag it out like MLB’s postseaston. Make it five races, short and sweet. And to further add to the excitement, reset the points of the top twenty! Five races, twenty drivers, mayhem galore. No coast and collect driving here, boys. All you got, every lap.

]]> By: Neon http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/10/26/standings-if-there-had-been-no-chase-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3110 Neon Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:59:00 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=352#comment-3110 Rethinking this whole Chase thing may be in order. American stick-n-ball sports (aside from the college football BCS) have a clear cut winner & loser and only the winner advances. In Cup you have a single winner and 42 losers (man that's a lot of losers!). Ok, so break the Chase down into two (5) races segments. Start all (12) w/ "0" points where (6) of the (12) are eliminated after the (5) race 1st segment. Start the 2nd segment w/ the remaining (6) teams at "0" points each. The Chase will tighten and everyone is happy when the Champion gets the BIG check in NYC and a new Honda or Nissan for the street. Rethinking this whole Chase thing may be in order. American stick-n-ball sports (aside from the college football BCS) have a clear cut winner & loser and only the winner advances. In Cup you have a single winner and 42 losers (man that’s a lot of losers!).
Ok, so break the Chase down into two (5) races segments. Start all (12) w/ “0″ points where (6) of the (12) are eliminated after the (5) race 1st segment. Start the 2nd segment w/ the remaining (6) teams at “0″ points each. The Chase will tighten and everyone is happy when the Champion gets the BIG check in NYC and a new Honda or Nissan for the street.

]]> By: David http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/10/26/standings-if-there-had-been-no-chase-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3103 David Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:20:31 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=352#comment-3103 I love the chase concept, but that does not mean I love the chase in it’s current form. I agree with Bobby on the expanding if it to 12 drivers from 10. 10 are enough. I also agree with him to a degree on the points paid out to the chasers. Using a 12 point system will not work. I would like to see a points system that separated the chasers from the rest of the field but still gives bonus points for such things as winning, leading laps/most laps and QUALING well. But all and all the chase is great for the sport. Every year of the chase we have had a fight down to the wire. Before the chase more times than not the championship was decided before the end of the season. And that meant the races after the championship had been decided were not as important. Now every lap of every race counts. And it is racing isn’t it! All the laps of all the races should count shouldn’t they? I love the chase concept, but that does not mean I love the chase in it’s current form. I agree with Bobby on the expanding if it to 12 drivers from 10. 10 are enough. I also agree with him to a degree on the points paid out to the chasers. Using a 12 point system will not work. I would like to see a points system that separated the chasers from the rest of the field but still gives bonus points for such things as winning, leading laps/most laps and QUALING well. But all and all the chase is great for the sport. Every year of the chase we have had a fight down to the wire. Before the chase more times than not the championship was decided before the end of the season. And that meant the races after the championship had been decided were not as important. Now every lap of every race counts. And it is racing isn’t it! All the laps of all the races should count shouldn’t they?

]]> By: Zieke http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/10/26/standings-if-there-had-been-no-chase-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3100 Zieke Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:51:57 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=352#comment-3100 As you said, the cream rises to the top! Johnson's team is head & shoulders above anyone else, and they showed it once again at Atlanta. The reason I don't care for the chase is TV. Those people show nothing but the chase drivers, and with their stupid updates on standings during the races, they don't have time for anything else. Maybe they don't realize that Johnson will be the champion, and the chase is all but over. I could go on & on, but suffice to say, I would not have been watching the last 4 or 5 races if it had'nt been for Andy and Jarrett trying to cover someone other than chase drivers. As you said, the cream rises to the top! Johnson’s team is head & shoulders above anyone else, and they showed it once again at Atlanta. The reason I don’t care for the chase is TV. Those people show nothing but the chase drivers, and with their stupid updates on standings during the races, they don’t have time for anything else. Maybe they don’t realize that Johnson will be the champion, and the chase is all but over. I could go on & on, but suffice to say, I would not have been watching the last 4 or 5 races if it had’nt been for Andy and Jarrett trying to cover someone other than chase drivers.

]]> By: Bobby http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/10/26/standings-if-there-had-been-no-chase-part-1/comment-page-1/#comment-3099 Bobby Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:45:46 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=352#comment-3099 I am not a fan of the chase as it stands. Nascar created the chase but used the same points structure. For me to become a fan of the chase I'd like to see the chase drivers earn a maximum of 12 points a race. The highest chase driver gets 12 points, the lowest gets 1 point. This would make the last lap at homestead a huge deal. This would make the chase far more interesting. I really hate the fact that after a couple superstars failed to make the chase Nascar chose to make it 12 drivers instead of 10. Ten drivers should be the cutoff, except for maybe 11th place as a "wildcard". Alot of fans out there like myself who have been watching Nascar for years are just about at the end of their rope. Brian France keeps changing the sport we love on a whim. I know he intends to bring in new fans but it seems he has forgotten or does not care about those of us who have been fans since long before he was in charge. I am not a fan of the chase as it stands. Nascar created the chase but used the same points structure. For me to become a fan of the chase I’d like to see the chase drivers earn a maximum of 12 points a race. The highest chase driver gets 12 points, the lowest gets 1 point. This would make the last lap at homestead a huge deal.

This would make the chase far more interesting. I really hate the fact that after a couple superstars failed to make the chase Nascar chose to make it 12 drivers instead of 10. Ten drivers should be the cutoff, except for maybe 11th place as a “wildcard”.

Alot of fans out there like myself who have been watching Nascar for years are just about at the end of their rope. Brian France keeps changing the sport we love on a whim. I know he intends to bring in new fans but it seems he has forgotten or does not care about those of us who have been fans since long before he was in charge.

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