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	<title>Comments on: Rubber Hits the Fan: Tires 1, NASCAR 0</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/07/27/rubber-hits-the-fan-tires-1-nascar-0/comment-page-1/#comment-667</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a bunch of cry babies. And I mean everyone that had a complaint about the tires from drivers to spectators.

If you want to talk about dangerous conditions try racing next to Michael Waltrip, Juan Pablo or several others. Racing next to these guys makes the tire issue look pretty benign.

Everyone had the same tires. I say as long as it&#039;s fair for all drivers it&#039;s &quot;game on&quot; no matter what the conditions. I say the tire issue was just another variable to deal with on raceday and the team that manages all the variables the best will probably be in &quot;Victory Lane.&quot;

As for the fans, all anyone will talk about on Monday morning is the carnage. And I think they got thier monies worth.

Mike &quot;The cry baby hater&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a bunch of cry babies. And I mean everyone that had a complaint about the tires from drivers to spectators.</p>
<p>If you want to talk about dangerous conditions try racing next to Michael Waltrip, Juan Pablo or several others. Racing next to these guys makes the tire issue look pretty benign.</p>
<p>Everyone had the same tires. I say as long as it&#8217;s fair for all drivers it&#8217;s &#8220;game on&#8221; no matter what the conditions. I say the tire issue was just another variable to deal with on raceday and the team that manages all the variables the best will probably be in &#8220;Victory Lane.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the fans, all anyone will talk about on Monday morning is the carnage. And I think they got thier monies worth.</p>
<p>Mike &#8220;The cry baby hater&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F1 pressured Michelin to refund the fans&#039; ticket costs when they had their tire debacle a few years ago at the USGP.

What are the odds that NASCAR and Goodyear will do the same for stock car fans who witnessed just as silly a spectacle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F1 pressured Michelin to refund the fans&#8217; ticket costs when they had their tire debacle a few years ago at the USGP.</p>
<p>What are the odds that NASCAR and Goodyear will do the same for stock car fans who witnessed just as silly a spectacle?</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TexaninCali:  I agree with you.  I was fascinated with the teams having to play &quot;Russian Roulette&quot; with those bad tires.  Chad Knaus should be commended on paying attention to race strategy rather than whining about &quot;what should have been&quot;.  

Here&#039;s the problem - NASCAR decided to take away 50% of the down force of the old car with the COT but is trying to make the COT &quot;more racy&quot; by telling Goodyear to ship tires to Indy that are a soft as a Magic Rub eraser. 

Bad combination!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TexaninCali:  I agree with you.  I was fascinated with the teams having to play &#8220;Russian Roulette&#8221; with those bad tires.  Chad Knaus should be commended on paying attention to race strategy rather than whining about &#8220;what should have been&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the problem &#8211; NASCAR decided to take away 50% of the down force of the old car with the COT but is trying to make the COT &#8220;more racy&#8221; by telling Goodyear to ship tires to Indy that are a soft as a Magic Rub eraser. </p>
<p>Bad combination!</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one recurring theme I keep hearing is that NASCAR did all they could do in the interest of driver safety. If driver safety was such a concern, then apparently pit crew safety must be out the window!

They should freeze the field during mandatory competition cautions so no driver gains or loses position before of after the pit stops. When you saw drivers moving up 10 or more positions during those stops, you can be sure that the safety officials were too busy staring at the cords coming through the tires than noticing if any short cuts were being taken by the teams. I bet the team engineer with the FedEx team regrets trying to catch the runaway tire that got knocked out of the tire carrier&#039;s hands by Reed Sorenson&#039;s car as it was charging out of pit road too close to Hamlin&#039;s car on the exit.

NASCAR is too worried about putting on the show and the heck with the consequences. Driver safety? The Car of Today shows you how feeble their attempt is to fob that concept on to us the fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one recurring theme I keep hearing is that NASCAR did all they could do in the interest of driver safety. If driver safety was such a concern, then apparently pit crew safety must be out the window!</p>
<p>They should freeze the field during mandatory competition cautions so no driver gains or loses position before of after the pit stops. When you saw drivers moving up 10 or more positions during those stops, you can be sure that the safety officials were too busy staring at the cords coming through the tires than noticing if any short cuts were being taken by the teams. I bet the team engineer with the FedEx team regrets trying to catch the runaway tire that got knocked out of the tire carrier&#8217;s hands by Reed Sorenson&#8217;s car as it was charging out of pit road too close to Hamlin&#8217;s car on the exit.</p>
<p>NASCAR is too worried about putting on the show and the heck with the consequences. Driver safety? The Car of Today shows you how feeble their attempt is to fob that concept on to us the fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/07/27/rubber-hits-the-fan-tires-1-nascar-0/comment-page-1/#comment-649</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The responsibility for this whole mess lies on NASCAR&#039;s shoulders. GoodYear makes the tires, but its NASCAR who gave the contract to GoodYear to build the tires. At the end of the day the sanctioning body is responsible for the event. Knowing that Indy is probably in the top 5 of important races on the NASCAR Sprint Cup schedule, why was there not an open test assigned to Indy? Why did NASCAR feel it was more important for the Cup teams to test at Pocono over Indy? 

Knowing the history of past races at Indy and how it takes practice and the beginning of the race to lay down enough rubber to keep the tires lasting a full fuel run. And knowing that this would be the first race for the COT at the famed Indy Speedway. You would think NASCAR would see this and would have mandated test date for Indy. 

This is not the first time GoodYear has not brought  an adaquit tire to a race this year. Each time the end result has been NASCAR and GoodYear saying that the tire issues are a product of the new COT car. GoodYear is still learning what the COT needs and NASCAR is aware of this. 

Well if they are aware of this then why do they continue to let it happen. Bottom line is GoodYear made a bad tire for this race and several others this year. But they can only build what NASCAR is asking them for. If NASCAR does not let GoodYear get enough test info from the teams then they can only build a tire on assumptions. 

GoodYear assumed the tire compound they had last year would be good for this year. GoodYear knows the track and track preparation has not changed. So all they can do is build what they know. And that was a tire that worked on the COY. Not the COT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The responsibility for this whole mess lies on NASCAR&#8217;s shoulders. GoodYear makes the tires, but its NASCAR who gave the contract to GoodYear to build the tires. At the end of the day the sanctioning body is responsible for the event. Knowing that Indy is probably in the top 5 of important races on the NASCAR Sprint Cup schedule, why was there not an open test assigned to Indy? Why did NASCAR feel it was more important for the Cup teams to test at Pocono over Indy? </p>
<p>Knowing the history of past races at Indy and how it takes practice and the beginning of the race to lay down enough rubber to keep the tires lasting a full fuel run. And knowing that this would be the first race for the COT at the famed Indy Speedway. You would think NASCAR would see this and would have mandated test date for Indy. </p>
<p>This is not the first time GoodYear has not brought  an adaquit tire to a race this year. Each time the end result has been NASCAR and GoodYear saying that the tire issues are a product of the new COT car. GoodYear is still learning what the COT needs and NASCAR is aware of this. </p>
<p>Well if they are aware of this then why do they continue to let it happen. Bottom line is GoodYear made a bad tire for this race and several others this year. But they can only build what NASCAR is asking them for. If NASCAR does not let GoodYear get enough test info from the teams then they can only build a tire on assumptions. </p>
<p>GoodYear assumed the tire compound they had last year would be good for this year. GoodYear knows the track and track preparation has not changed. So all they can do is build what they know. And that was a tire that worked on the COY. Not the COT.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Watkins</title>
		<link>http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/07/27/rubber-hits-the-fan-tires-1-nascar-0/comment-page-1/#comment-644</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at the race on the inside of the track near the start/finish line and can say that I also enjoyed the race. It was annoying to see cautions for what appeared to be no reason (we didn&#039;t know they were all competition cautions right away), but I don&#039;t know how this wasn&#039;t different from a lot of Nascar races at tracks like Martinsville or Bristol in the past where there were a bunch of race-related cautions.

The pit strategy was also interesting to watch, where drivers who were in the Top 5 all of a sudden fell 9-10 spots because they went with 4 tires, then had to work their way back towards the front of the race on the next several laps (Jeff Gordon, for example).

The final comment I will make...I was at Chicagoland Speedway two weeks ago and at Indy for this event; I personally enjoyed this recent race a bit more than seeing whoever the lead driver was jump out to a huge advantage after each restart (usually Kyle Busch) and then watch everyone else go in circles for 30 laps until the next caution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the race on the inside of the track near the start/finish line and can say that I also enjoyed the race. It was annoying to see cautions for what appeared to be no reason (we didn&#8217;t know they were all competition cautions right away), but I don&#8217;t know how this wasn&#8217;t different from a lot of Nascar races at tracks like Martinsville or Bristol in the past where there were a bunch of race-related cautions.</p>
<p>The pit strategy was also interesting to watch, where drivers who were in the Top 5 all of a sudden fell 9-10 spots because they went with 4 tires, then had to work their way back towards the front of the race on the next several laps (Jeff Gordon, for example).</p>
<p>The final comment I will make&#8230;I was at Chicagoland Speedway two weeks ago and at Indy for this event; I personally enjoyed this recent race a bit more than seeing whoever the lead driver was jump out to a huge advantage after each restart (usually Kyle Busch) and then watch everyone else go in circles for 30 laps until the next caution.</p>
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		<title>By: vettes n frets</title>
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		<dc:creator>vettes n frets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too enjoyed the  race.

They should&#039;ve tried spraying some VHT in the corners to at least try to get the track to rubber up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too enjoyed the  race.</p>
<p>They should&#8217;ve tried spraying some VHT in the corners to at least try to get the track to rubber up.</p>
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		<title>By: SearsPointer</title>
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		<dc:creator>SearsPointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, Johnson winning was probably the saving grace for NASCAR at the end of the race. The #48 was on the pole and consistently ran up front during the race. We were all left with the impression that while the race might have been lacking, at least the best driver/car/team won.

Just imagine what would have happened if a team that usually isn&#039;t a contender had won the race! If the running order at the end had been something like #66, #28, #45, #00, #5 (just picking random teams here that haven&#039;t won) there would have been a huge outcry from everybody. &quot;Russian Roulette! Terrible and unfair racing conditions!&quot; With Johnson winning, NASCAR is spared from that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, Johnson winning was probably the saving grace for NASCAR at the end of the race. The #48 was on the pole and consistently ran up front during the race. We were all left with the impression that while the race might have been lacking, at least the best driver/car/team won.</p>
<p>Just imagine what would have happened if a team that usually isn&#8217;t a contender had won the race! If the running order at the end had been something like #66, #28, #45, #00, #5 (just picking random teams here that haven&#8217;t won) there would have been a huge outcry from everybody. &#8220;Russian Roulette! Terrible and unfair racing conditions!&#8221; With Johnson winning, NASCAR is spared from that.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Zaegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Zaegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta say ... that first paragraph in of itself pretty much sums it up. It was a horrible race, plain and simple. NASCAR acknowledged the severity of the problem, which is good to go in my book, so now let&#039;s move on. It&#039;s just unfortunate that the tire issues had to overshadow a great run by Johnson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta say &#8230; that first paragraph in of itself pretty much sums it up. It was a horrible race, plain and simple. NASCAR acknowledged the severity of the problem, which is good to go in my book, so now let&#8217;s move on. It&#8217;s just unfortunate that the tire issues had to overshadow a great run by Johnson.</p>
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		<title>By: TexaninCali</title>
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		<dc:creator>TexaninCali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in the minority here but I enjoyed the race.  It was interesting to see the strategy work out and  to see who could figure it out and rise to the top.  I know they were only going 60-70% and all the cautions did get tedious.  But, Jimmy Johnson is the best driver and Knaus is the smartest crew chief and they won, like it should be.  The 48 team figured out what the track would give them, how fast they could go and then they took what they could.  They were the best team all weekend.  They were the fastest all qualifying, practice and then in the race.  Even with all of the problems.  This race goes to show that the best teams will rise to the top.  I thought it was more interesting than watching someone get out front and check out and then hoping for caution so that the field bunches up to see some action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in the minority here but I enjoyed the race.  It was interesting to see the strategy work out and  to see who could figure it out and rise to the top.  I know they were only going 60-70% and all the cautions did get tedious.  But, Jimmy Johnson is the best driver and Knaus is the smartest crew chief and they won, like it should be.  The 48 team figured out what the track would give them, how fast they could go and then they took what they could.  They were the best team all weekend.  They were the fastest all qualifying, practice and then in the race.  Even with all of the problems.  This race goes to show that the best teams will rise to the top.  I thought it was more interesting than watching someone get out front and check out and then hoping for caution so that the field bunches up to see some action.</p>
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