Comments on: The High Walls of NASCAR http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/06/15/the-high-walls-of-nascar/ A blog by insiders for outsiders Wed, 08 Feb 2012 02:30:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nick http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/06/15/the-high-walls-of-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-281 Nick Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:30:13 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=90#comment-281 By keeping their rule book from the general public, NASCAR has no concrete standard for making their decisions. There is no common measuring tape, no moral compass that they can follow. NASCAR seemingly makes decisions as the mood strikes... I am not the first one to accuse NASCAR of making sh!t up as they go along, and I will not be the last, especially with the phantom rulebook. I do not wholly disagree with your opinion that NASCAR would be more accountable with a public rule book, but I think there would be enormous pressure on them to follow whatever steps are prescribed. NASCAR needs to make the rule book public more for the sake of the integrity of the sport. Without that, there isn't a whole hell of a lot separating NASCAR from pro-wrestling, and I say that as someone who has poured his passion into the sport for more than two decades. This is one of NASCAR's biggest faults, and it needs to be addressed for the sport to achieve the credibility that it so richly deserves. By keeping their rule book from the general public, NASCAR has no concrete standard for making their decisions. There is no common measuring tape, no moral compass that they can follow. NASCAR seemingly makes decisions as the mood strikes… I am not the first one to accuse NASCAR of making sh!t up as they go along, and I will not be the last, especially with the phantom rulebook. I do not wholly disagree with your opinion that NASCAR would be more accountable with a public rule book, but I think there would be enormous pressure on them to follow whatever steps are prescribed. NASCAR needs to make the rule book public more for the sake of the integrity of the sport. Without that, there isn’t a whole hell of a lot separating NASCAR from pro-wrestling, and I say that as someone who has poured his passion into the sport for more than two decades. This is one of NASCAR’s biggest faults, and it needs to be addressed for the sport to achieve the credibility that it so richly deserves.

]]> By: Journo http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/06/15/the-high-walls-of-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-279 Journo Tue, 17 Jun 2008 01:40:36 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=90#comment-279 Nick - It is something I probably should have included in the post and not something I thought about until just now. Fans being able to purchase a rule book is not going to make NASCAR more accountable for the very reason you said. There is actually a rule in the rule book, section 12-4.A (I will give you the wording below). Anything that didn't fit into a rule in the book would automatically go there like it does now. It is a catch all category. "A. Any Member who performs an act or participates in actions deemed by NASCAR officials as detrimental to NASCAR racing or to NASCAR: a fine, and/or disqualification, and/or loss of Championship points, and/or loss of finishing position(s) in the Event, and/or probation, and/or suspension" There are several other letters after that outlining other penalties. The point is NASCAR is going to do what they want whether rule books are sold to the public or not. Do you deserve a better explanation about penalties? Yeah you do, but unfortunately NASCAR is not known for its openness. Nick – It is something I probably should have included in the post and not something I thought about until just now. Fans being able to purchase a rule book is not going to make NASCAR more accountable for the very reason you said. There is actually a rule in the rule book, section 12-4.A (I will give you the wording below). Anything that didn’t fit into a rule in the book would automatically go there like it does now. It is a catch all category.

“A. Any Member who performs an act or participates in actions deemed by NASCAR officials as detrimental to NASCAR racing or to NASCAR: a fine, and/or disqualification, and/or loss of Championship points, and/or loss of finishing position(s) in the Event, and/or probation, and/or suspension”

There are several other letters after that outlining other penalties. The point is NASCAR is going to do what they want whether rule books are sold to the public or not. Do you deserve a better explanation about penalties? Yeah you do, but unfortunately NASCAR is not known for its openness.

]]> By: Nick http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/06/15/the-high-walls-of-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-272 Nick Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:49:19 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=90#comment-272 Thank you for answering my question. Technical jargon or not, we, as paying fans, have a right to know exactly what rules govern the sport that we fork over increasing amounts of coin to follow. We deserve to know that there is a basis for the (in)consistency that NASCAR uses in making the calls that they do, and when someone gets penalized, we deserve a better explanation than "actions detrimental to stock car racing." Thank you for answering my question.

Technical jargon or not, we, as paying fans, have a right to know exactly what rules govern the sport that we fork over increasing amounts of coin to follow. We deserve to know that there is a basis for the (in)consistency that NASCAR uses in making the calls that they do, and when someone gets penalized, we deserve a better explanation than “actions detrimental to stock car racing.”

]]> By: Karah http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/2008/06/15/the-high-walls-of-nascar/comment-page-1/#comment-267 Karah Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:41:25 +0000 http://www.thenascarinsiders.com/?p=90#comment-267 I don't know how I feel about the meeting that took place on Friday. Obviously I wasn't there, but it's almost like a slap at the drivers' first amendment rights. Tony Stewart made a comment after the race kind of proved that. He didn't know what to say because he wasn't sure what he could say that NASCAR would approve of. Then again... it is Tony saying it lol I don’t know how I feel about the meeting that took place on Friday. Obviously I wasn’t there, but it’s almost like a slap at the drivers’ first amendment rights.

Tony Stewart made a comment after the race kind of proved that. He didn’t know what to say because he wasn’t sure what he could say that NASCAR would approve of.

Then again… it is Tony saying it lol

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